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vstech 06-26-2013 10:39 PM

it was 6.00 a can last year, this year it is 19...

for the 12oz can...
retail that is.
I'm sure my distributor can get them for me by the case cheaper. I use jugs... just got one today for 115.00
134 hype will spike the price, but it'll stay around 200 I think.
R22 on the other hand...

Doktor Bert 06-26-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3166474)
it was 6.00 a can last year, this year it is 19...for the 12oz can...retail that is.

Wow, they are not that much out here....yet!

vstech 06-26-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doktor Bert (Post 3166486)
Wow, they are not that much out here....yet!

yup. wallyworld price... the leakseal/coolstuff versions are over 34.00...

lorainfurniture 06-26-2013 11:37 PM

I just bought a 30lb bottle of r134 for $120. I need to start recovering my own r12 from all of these refrigerators I go through. I'd have an endless supply.

whunter 06-27-2013 01:04 AM

FYI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3166474)
it was 6.00 a can last year, this year it is 19...

for the 12oz can...
retail that is.
I'm sure my distributor can get them for me by the case cheaper. I use jugs... just got one today for 115.00
134 hype will spike the price, but it'll stay around 200 I think.
R22 on the other hand...

Because of the season, I am picking up some 30 Lb cylinders of 134A Thursday $99.00 each.
The Mcparts stores here are $19.95 + 6% tax for one pound cans. :eek:
No comment on R22 cost...

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Doktor Bert 06-27-2013 02:03 AM

Good prices....

cooljjay 06-27-2013 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Doktor Bert (Post 3166463)
I don't know if stocking up on R134a is wise. I don't think we will ever see the rise in price like we did with R-12. I remember when it was 99 cents a can at K-Mart in 1985...

Ah man, I wish it was still that way! I just want one little piddle can and a gauge to see if I can top my system off to work for the summer.....but as it stands I have to flip the coin....spend 60$ a can, hope it works or see it go into thin air...


Hey I just seen a commercial on TV....big lots has r134a for 6.77$ a can....

vstech 06-27-2013 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whunter (Post 3166532)
Because of the season, I am picking up some 30 Lb cylinders of 134A Thursday $99.00 each.
The Mcparts stores here are $19.95 + 6% tax for one pound cans. :eek:
No comment on R22 cost...

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you can get one pound cans? all the cans around here are 12oz...

vstech 06-27-2013 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 3166502)
I just bought a 30lb bottle of r134 for $120. I need to start recovering my own r12 from all of these refrigerators I go through. I'd have an endless supply.

most friges have less than 1/2 a can in them... 5 to 8 oz... that's a LOT of recovering... test for burnout first!!!

Doktor Bert 06-27-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vstech (Post 3166599)
you can get one pound cans? all the cans around here are 12oz...

In A/C terminology, a 12 ounce can is referred to as one pound (troy pound) as opposed to an avoirdupois pound where a pound is 16 ounces.

The new Robinaire A/C machine I was using recently would advance to the next full pound at 12 ounces, FWIW anyways....

vstech 06-27-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doktor Bert (Post 3166785)
In A/C terminology, a 12 ounce can is referred to as one pound (troy pound) as opposed to an avoirdupois pound where a pound is 16 ounces.

The new Robinaire A/C machine I was using recently would advance to the next full pound at 12 ounces, FWIW anyways....

... this is news to me. my refrigerant scale goes 16oz to the pound...
then again, I've only been doing this work for 29 years... perhaps I've missed something. automotive cans are rated by troy oz? seriously?:confused:

methinks you are mistaken... the only thing I've ever seen measured in troy oz was precious metals. (now R12 is pricey, but I'm thinking it's still measured by weight and the 16oz/LB )

Doktor Bert 06-27-2013 12:59 PM

No argument here, just telling you what I have experienced personally. Like our Robinaire unit advances to the next full pound after 12 ounces.

How would you explain a 12 ounce can when they were always referred to as a 1 pound can????

It doesn't matter either way, I'm just telling you why I call a 12 ounce can a 1 pound can...FWIW anyways...

DeliveryValve 06-27-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by whunter (Post 3166532)
Because of the season, I am picking up some 30 Lb cylinders of 134A Thursday $99.00 each.
The Mcparts stores here are $19.95 + 6% tax for one pound cans. :eek:
No comment on R22 cost...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doktor Bert (Post 3166546)
Good prices....

I see quit a few 30 lb tanks of R134a selling on Craigslist around that price, but you got to watch out for the made in China stuff as I read it could be an inferior product.
A few years ago I got my DuPont Suva for $130, just has 1/4 fitting though, and I was lucky to buy an almost full tank of Arkema Forane R22 for a $100.
R12, been good with that for a while. But would randomly pick some more up if I see a good deal.


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Doktor Bert 06-27-2013 01:20 PM

I'll bet the China refrigerants are horrible as their CV boots!!!

eatont9999 06-27-2013 05:34 PM

It's a good thing I don't own anything that takes R134a. I converted the 300SD back to R12 and I am very happy with it.

Sometimes a mix of propane and isobutane will give a pressure curve close to R12.


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