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Old 01-27-2014, 02:22 PM
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Ho Leeee fuuuurq

For a ride height like that =>



Around here you'd have to put some glittery curtains in the back and start wearing shoes like this



I have a feeling you'll be getting some uneven wear on the outer side of your tyres.

Does it handle like a 1970s American dream boat?
so far the handling is by far superior to the original springs. they were lower, but they were also so worn that the car wallowed around corners. Previously it handled like a 1970s dream boat, now it handles like a 300D around corners.

I do agree that the rear tires might start to develop outer edge wear until these springs settle down a bit, fronts look pretty level though. However, I love the new ride height and clearance. Ive got to take some other pics for you, the side one doesn't do it as much justice. Walking back in a parking lot I was struck by it earlier.

Those shoes do not look comfortable in the least

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Old 01-28-2014, 03:08 AM
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Officially if you want to wear shoes like that you need to be selling flying carpets or kebabs so I don't think you need to worry about them.

I've always wondered how Mercedes sorted out the higher ride height on the vehicles fitted with the higher suspension for countries with poor road surfaces (what ever the term was they used in the FSM). The front (like you suggest) can be adjusted quite a bit but the back is limited by the arc of travel of the trailing arms...

...may be they shimmed the height of the subframe? But they can't drop the height of the differential too far down from the horizontal because you then end up with vibration trouble from the single UJ propshaft set up - but saying that I've seen propshaft set ups with two UJs for the W123 pictured in EPC...
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Old 01-28-2014, 04:27 PM
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Officially if you want to wear shoes like that you need to be selling flying carpets or kebabs so I don't think you need to worry about them.

I've always wondered how Mercedes sorted out the higher ride height on the vehicles fitted with the higher suspension for countries with poor road surfaces (what ever the term was they used in the FSM). The front (like you suggest) can be adjusted quite a bit but the back is limited by the arc of travel of the trailing arms...

...may be they shimmed the height of the subframe? But they can't drop the height of the differential too far down from the horizontal because you then end up with vibration trouble from the single UJ propshaft set up - but saying that I've seen propshaft set ups with two UJs for the W123 pictured in EPC...
I think all they did was add longer springs personally, the rear tires are still pretty straight

I seem to have gained a huge amount of clearance, certainly seems as high as many of the rough road suspension 123s now.
Below is the famous Jurgen 123 wagon with what he described as the rough service springs on it. Im wondering if rough service springs for a 240 are really just a set of 300D springs.



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Old 01-28-2014, 04:37 PM
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Old 01-29-2014, 03:38 AM
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That's an amazing height.

You're talking about your 2 post lift always being busy - I don't think you need it on this car any more!
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I think all they did was add longer springs personally, the rear tires are still pretty straight

I seem to have gained a huge amount of clearance, certainly seems as high as many of the rough road suspension 123s now.
Below is the famous Jurgen 123 wagon with what he described as the rough service springs on it. Im wondering if rough service springs for a 240 are really just a set of 300D springs.




Looks beefy
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:33 PM
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About ready to run this SOB up to Canada for a nice little 3 day trip.

List of immediate relatively minor maintenance items I need to take care of before departure friday morning-

-fuel filters
-main vac line
-center motor mount
-updated primer pump
-injector return lines
-oil change
-PASSENGER AXLE

cant forget to bring tow chain, comealong, snow shovel, blanket, some tools. Should be good after that
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Old 02-13-2014, 03:15 PM
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Im glad I didn't listen to that dangerous little bird telling me to just run the current set of axles up the Canada, about 1000 miles of driving planned.

Last night I was using this car to pull some other cars off some ice, and I spun the rear wheel pretty bad. That was it for this axle




Got some new EMPI 2 piece axles. Read a lot of comments about the bolts on these getting loose, so pulled all the bolts and reinstalled with locktite just in case.
Also, electric blue seemed like the right color for these axles





I think the car is ready! a few other little issues-
Fuel filters were bad, and the main vac line had a bad crack on the underside. All replaced now-

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Old 02-14-2014, 10:38 AM
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Electric blue?
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I will give you $2 for it. You can double your money.


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Old 02-19-2014, 07:28 PM
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Electric blue?
you Europeans don't like giving great names to paints it seems.

https://www.google.com/search?q=electric+blue+paint&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ZEsFU_HsM-aW1AHipIGQBg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1440&bih=751
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just a comment on the new springs.

This is rapidly becoming the big thing thats revitalized this car and made it feel like new. As I said above, I just put about 1000 miles on it heading up north and back, and on the return trip the car was loaded up with 4 adults and a full trunk. It rode great, and my brother in law actually said that he really liked the rear seats (coming from someone who is not a fan of the car), that the car was extremely comfortable for a road trip, riding nicely over some bad roads, and it never once dragged a$$ as is common with old 123s.

I say if the car is 30 years old, people should consider putting new springs in out of hand for a 123. Its completely changed the entire feel of the car
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man this winter was hard on this car. Ive just been over all the bodywork that was JUST done last fall, and ive got surface rust starting everywhere, about 8 places. POR time.

I had my doubts about how much prep to non visible under surfaces the painter did, and I have my answer. Beautiful job on the fenders, less so on patches underneath which were rattle canned only.

Fortunately, its early enough that wire wheeling and POR should knock the inevitable back on its heels for a few years to come.
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Old 04-21-2014, 08:22 AM
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man this winter was hard on this car. Ive just been over all the bodywork that was JUST done last fall, and ive got surface rust starting everywhere, about 8 places. POR time.

I had my doubts about how much prep to non visible under surfaces the painter did, and I have my answer. Beautiful job on the fenders, less so on patches underneath which were rattle canned only.

Fortunately, its early enough that wire wheeling and POR should knock the inevitable back on its heels for a few years to come.
It is never ending - especially if you use the damn thing in the damp and the wet.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:12 PM
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man this winter was hard on this car. Ive just been over all the bodywork that was JUST done last fall, and ive got surface rust starting everywhere, about 8 places. POR time.

I had my doubts about how much prep to non visible under surfaces the painter did, and I have my answer. Beautiful job on the fenders, less so on patches underneath which were rattle canned only.

Fortunately, its early enough that wire wheeling and POR should knock the inevitable back on its heels for a few years to come.
This is exactly why my wagon and 240D are never getting driven in the snow ever again. Salt sucks.

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