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Old 01-22-2012, 11:17 PM
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Mongolian Block Heaters

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Crude but effective i'm sure.

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I like the truck.
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I like the truck.

It's a GAZ, aka Gorkiy Avtomobilniy Zavod.
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Back in the day on college Christmas break 2 friends and I drove cross country to ski Vail. On of the guys went to SoCal to pick up a friend's VW Beetle to drive back East. An overnight stay in Vail thickened the SoCal oil to a sludge so the car wouldn't start. Had to call a tow truck to heat up the oil with a heat blower to start it. What did we know, we were college kids...
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Old 01-25-2013, 10:30 PM
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Back in the day on college Christmas break 2 friends and I drove cross country to ski Vail. On of the guys went to SoCal to pick up a friend's VW Beetle to drive back East. An overnight stay in Vail thickened the SoCal oil to a sludge so the car wouldn't start. Had to call a tow truck to heat up the oil with a heat blower to start it. What did we know, we were college kids...
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I noticed the picture of the Mongolian Engine heater isn`t here in post #1, so here it is, found it on Google. Can`t make the picture any larger, and clicking on it just get`s you back in this thread.


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With winter getting close, and winter already in some places, this will give you a laugh.

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Old 01-22-2012, 11:51 PM
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Another Cold Start Technique

Years ago I swapped a Perkins 4.108 diesel engine into a Chevrolet Vega. The little Perkins had a very interesting cold start system. When you hit the glow plug switch it would heat up an element in the intake and the heat would open a valve that would allow diesel fuel to enter the intake around the heating element where it would catch fire. Upon cranking, the heated air and fire would be drawn into the cylinder where it would allegedly help get the engine started. This picture is a screen cap from a YouTube video showing this engine using the rather unorthodox "glow" technique.



Here's the video - primera puesta en marcha perkins 4.108 en jeep cj3b - YouTube

The block heater above kind of reminded me of this otherwise excellent engine.
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Old 01-22-2012, 11:55 PM
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Years ago I swapped a Perkins 4.108 diesel engine into a Chevrolet Vega. The little Perkins had a very interesting cold start system. When you hit the glow plug switch it would heat up an element in the intake and the heat would open a valve that would allow diesel fuel to enter the intake around the heating element where it would catch fire. Upon cranking, the heated air and fire would be drawn into the cylinder where it would allegedly help get the engine started. This picture is a screen cap from a YouTube video showing this engine using the rather unorthodox "glow" technique.


Here's the video - primera puesta en marcha perkins 4.108 en jeep cj3b - YouTube

The block heater above kind of reminded me of this otherwise excellent engine.
Very neat. How well did it work? Any long term issues with the system?
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:10 AM
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Very neat. How well did it work? Any long term issues with the system?
I just checked and you can still buy the Intake Heater Glow Plug on eBay. Dirt simple, just hook up the tab to glow plug switch and the end to the fuel line and that's it. Under extreme conditions I suppose someone could actually hook this up as a supplemental starting aid on an OM6xx engine... kind of redneck, but who knows.... In a pinch it might actually work.

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I just checked and you can still buy the Intake Heater Glow Plug on eBay. Dirt simple, just hook up the tab to glow plug switch and the end to the fuel line and that's it. Under extreme conditions I suppose someone could actually hook this up as a supplemental starting aid on an OM6xx engine... kind of redneck, but who knows.... In a pinch it might actually work.

That is a good idea, redneck or not. It's essentially what a Dodge Cummins with its intake heater except it doesn't draw down the battery as much.
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Old 01-23-2012, 12:16 PM
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That is a good idea, redneck or not. It's essentially what a Dodge Cummins with its intake heater except it doesn't draw down the battery as much.
I will admit to being surprised at the number of applications for the Perkins Intake Heater Glow Plug. It just might work....not that I would ever need one here in San Diego.

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I have a Perkins 4-108 powering my generator in the Wanderlodge. It's got standard glowplugs as far as I know. I've never looked in the intake.
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Old 02-23-2012, 12:27 PM
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I have a Perkins 4-108 powering my generator in the Wanderlodge. It's got standard glowplugs as far as I know. I've never looked in the intake.

I'm seriously mlooking for a 4-99 or a 4-108 Perkins, are there any where you are? Preference is for the 4-99
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Whoa Whoa ! No comments on a Diesel in an old Chevy Vega ? Now that I would like to see.
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I'm seriously mlooking for a 4-99 or a 4-108 Perkins, are there any where you are? Preference is for the 4-99
Not that I know of. Most 80's Wanderlodge generators were powered by the 4-108. I would think a fair number of those would still be around. Sailboats also had the 4-108.
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