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02-03-2012, 09:30 AM
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02-03-2012, 09:41 AM
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k, what are the chances of a IP with 60K original miles being shot? and 2 replacement IPs also being shot? Guy called me to see if I had one and said his MB mechanic has had his car for 8 months (a 78 300CD) claims the IP is shot cause he can't get the car to prime. He has found and bought 2 other IP's and been told those are also bad.
Seems fishy to me. Car still has the old style primer pump on it... He's 80 miles south of Atlanta or I would run over and see if I could help him. Last edited by ngarover; 02-03-2012 at 10:05 AM.
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02-03-2012, 11:10 AM
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You'd probably have to change the elements to make it run properly; but even then I'm not 100% the governor would be correct...
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02-03-2012, 11:14 AM
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Not only one IP being shot but three IPs being shot => I'm 99% sure that is BS. I hope there is more to the story than that - with the evidence given - BS. Old style primer pump could be leaking - and a new might help. Is he filling the secondary filter to help himself along? Or is he just running out of patience? More information req'd
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Sure he isn't trying to wear this guy down so he can then buy the car at cut-rate? (I only ask as it's a Coupe.) This is top of mind as my mechanic friend just busted another shop for trying to do that to a customer (luckily the person got referred for a second opinion by a work colleague). We're talking a $3,500 estimate that turned out to be $280 in repairs (including a headlight that wasn't even caught on the big estimate).... Quote:
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02-03-2012, 01:48 PM
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I agree the pump is not likely the culprit. Inexperienced mechanics are quick to blame the pump since they don't understand it, but the ip is nearly always innocent.
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02-03-2012, 02:14 PM
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I've got a decent IP in my 78 parts car... of course it's been sitting unused for 10 years in my yard, marinating in bad fuel...
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02-03-2012, 02:33 PM
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The high speed of the non-turbo and turbo engine is the same, the governor will cut off fuel if that maximum speed is reached. Between idle and maximum speed there is no governing.
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02-03-2012, 02:41 PM
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02-03-2012, 03:49 PM
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The IP's on the 61x engines are pretty though. I highly doubt the guy has really put 3 bad IPs on. Something else is up. I'd suspect the lift pump, or the primer pump, a bad air leak at the filter housing or a severely clogged tank screen.
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02-03-2012, 06:19 PM
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The two ip have the same size elements in the and are mechanically the same, except one has an ADA and the other has an ALDA. The tuning will be a little differant, so if used on the non turbo it will tend to over fuel.
I think his problem is fuel related, as in getting fuel to the ip.
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