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Old 05-30-2012, 08:09 AM
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I am anal, and thus have yet to have a regulator fail on any of my cars in 9+ years. I always stop right when it gets to the seal, if I stop too early, I bring it back down a few inches and try again.
Do you ever try to roll up multiple windows at the same time?

I thought w126s had that little pad thingy to "attempt" to limit the travel of the regulator. Of course, I agree with BC --- the motor always wins over the regulator. I can't tell you how many stripped out regulator gears I've seen --- hundreds?

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True --- but I still remember the time when my daughter took her first ride in my first Dodge Dakota truck....must have been a 94 model or some such. This was the first vehicle she had been in with crank windows. I look over and she is rolling down the window while saying, "Dad, this door won't open".
Honestly, I think I would prefer it. I had a right rear regulator go out on the 92 300D (and that has the limiting device in the circuit....so Brian can't send me to button pushing school for that one). And we had a regulator go out on our Honda Odyssey at only 40,000 miles!
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Old 05-30-2012, 06:20 PM
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Do you ever try to roll up multiple windows at the same time?
That would be against the law on a W126.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:13 AM
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............the teeth on the motor stripping the teeth on the regulator..........
ohhhh nooo mine just started doing this a few days ago and stops 2 inches from the top.... do i need a new regulator or can you just replace the teeth on it...
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:28 AM
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Do you ever try to roll up multiple windows at the same time?

I thought w126s had that little pad thingy to "attempt" to limit the travel of the regulator. Of course, I agree with BC --- the motor always wins over the regulator. I can't tell you how many stripped out regulator gears I've seen --- hundreds?
Yes as long as they are on the same side of the car. Takes skill and high speed dexterity only possessed by the video game generation.
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:29 AM
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ohhhh nooo mine just started doing this a few days ago and stops 2 inches from the top.... do i need a new regulator or can you just replace the teeth on it...
You will need a new regulator....they can go quite a while like that if careful with them....
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:03 AM
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haha, what happens with mine if I press on it too long is that the window will get stuck and won't respond to the switch anymore. I then have to remove the door card and "loosen" the regulator bolts... give it a few thumps then it's ok again. Quite a hassle really... and this is a w124.
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Old 05-31-2012, 02:20 PM
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my drivers window got pretty bad. its the most used after all. anyway. I had the door panel off one night and was looking at how the regulator came out of the door. looked like it was gonna be at least an hours job... then I looked across the garage at the mig welder. Stuck that some-bat up in there and welded onto the missing teeth, then took a triangle file to them. 15 min later the window works perfect. that was 4 years ago. now I get the pop sound on the last tooth. I'm pretty good about not holding down the button but others are not. so sooner or later I gotta get the welder back in there and replace the last tooth again.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:14 PM
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SirNik84, I have not seen any posts recently about your car. Sorry to all about going off topic.
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SirNik84, I have not seen any posts recently about your car. Sorry to all about going off topic.
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:54 PM
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I'm doing some restoration work on an '85 300TD, and I've been told that the regulators are similar to those in the 126. Here are a few pics of the regulators I pulled out of that car--major warpage:











Note that in the last two pics, the regulators were trying to rip themselves out of the doors. Three of the four regulators were toast, and the fourth was only good because it had been recently replaced. The owner had me swap the car over to manual winders. I wouldn't do something this drastic with a 124, but on this car it just made sense.
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:11 PM
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Interesting ... this week I've been fiddling with the rear window on my 124 and noticed the fact that the inside of the door panel flexes out when the window hits the top limit. I thought maybe it had something to do with the door being hit, or something about the new (used) regulator. The rear windows had not budged at least since my dad gave me the car (almost 10 years ago) so I never observed its previous function. The front windows don't seem to do the same. I'll find out what the other rear does when I get a chance to replace that regulator.
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Our 85 300D was cracked in the same place. the metal can be tweeked just so many times and it will start to crack. that just shows you how much torque the motor puts on the regulator and sheet metal.

looks like there is a crack also diagnally going up to that upper hole. If the crack is cought early enough, a hole can be drilled at the end of the crack and then welded. this will keep the crack from growing. either way it will need to be welded.

I was thinking of cutting out a piece from another door (PNP) and lay it over this section and weld it to strethen it.

The wollowed out hole is from the nut coming loose and letting the stud work in the hole.





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Old 05-31-2012, 06:01 PM
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I try to let go of the switches at exactly the right time and I've still probably replaced 5-6 w126 regulators in various doors between the two cars over the last several years. They added up to the point I've just about quit fixing them unless it's the front ones.
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Old 05-31-2012, 07:10 PM
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Our 85 300D was cracked in the same place. the metal can be tweeked just so many times and it will start to crack. that just shows you how much torque the motor puts on the regulator and sheet metal.

looks like there is a crack also diagnally going up to that upper hole. If the crack is cought early enough, a hole can be drilled at the end of the crack and then welded. this will keep the crack from growing. either way it will need to be welded.

I was thinking of cutting out a piece from another door (PNP) and lay it over this section and weld it to strethen it.

The wollowed out hole is from the nut coming loose and letting the stud work in the hole.


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I welded up the crack in the front door, prior to installing the manual winders...which by the way have their own confounding weaknesses.

The nuts in the rear doors didn't appear to be excessively loose, but the warping in the regulators was bowing out the door frames significantly.

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