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Old 09-05-2012, 07:06 PM
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207d camper, more power *wanted*

hey guys,
i have a 207d with a om616 motor and the 5 speed , (well really its a 4 speed with a super low crawler gear)

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as you can see, shifting that with a 2.4l naturally aspirated diesel is a very slow process,

ive read about turbo upgrades, and even contacted stt emtec, but they no longer sell the kits, (all they seem to supply is kits for mitzi pajeros, that were already turbo'd wtf! )

seen a thread where someone installed 617 bits (less a cylinder) but even finding 617 turbo bits is proving futile,

ive even heard a om617 motor will bolt straight up to the 5 speed gear box,
which i'd consider if it was a tubo motor , although i don't even have 60000miles on the 616 motor yet


is there a *how to* guide with pics on installing a turbo anywhere,
can you use or modify the stock 616 intake and exhaust manifolds?

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Old 09-05-2012, 07:16 PM
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It's be worth asking the question here. These guys are pretty on top of this sort of thing.

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Old 09-05-2012, 07:29 PM
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Hi, I parted one out a few yrs ago and the cross cradle had a spot for moving the DS motor cushion forward to install a 617. there was a thread about a month back with a hymer 309d rv--the bigger bus body with a turbo 617 and an automatic. a 617 would bolt right in and your truck already has the special 33 lb flywheel--a G-wagon flywheel to go on a 617. if you are not a speed demon you could settle for 5 cyls naturally asperated--just find a rusty old heap and yank the motor--and swap in a long runner 115 5 cyl intake at the same time--and its dry aircleaner can too. If you were in the states you could (maybe) find an auxillary transmission -browneee-- that you put in the driveline that wold give you OD as well as low for each gear forward or reverse, they are tough to find nowdays, but they make small engines--the little engine that could!
if you try to mod your 616 it will most likely cut the life --especially hauling this bulk around the guys that do it take a 617 turbo exhaust and lobb off the last runner and weld it up with a nickel welding rod. Your special long runner 616 intake is a redesigned om621 intake with the inlet at the front end--and has a throttle flap if i remember correctly--you would just remove that and run the air straight in.

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X2 on panZZers comments.
I would put a 5 cylinder in before I turbo the 240.
Depending on the year of your 240 it has 65 or 72 HP.
If it is a 65 HP, You can pep it up a little with the cam from a later 616.
If you using a 617 get one that is 1980 or later.
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Old 09-05-2012, 11:16 PM
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hey guys cheers for the speedy responses,
sounds like the na 5 cylinder is the way forward,
ill keep my eyes open for one, im not too worried about engine life,
parts are fairly plentyful in the uk, even buying a whole second hand car costs next to nothing,

mine is a 84, but bugger if i know if its the higher hp model
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The sedans had 72 HP from 1980 on.
So your 207 should too.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:19 PM
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the 240 d sedans are 72 hp, my euro truck I have heard had a pump with bigger stuff that might have upped the horses a few. the 5 cyl sedans are around 98 hp I think. a turbo motor uses noticably more fuel consumption. the dutch guy who sold me the truck said it was a 5 speed, he lied. and I got the same granny gear 4 speed which is really a 3 speed ---with an extra low #1. for something like the truck its useful , wether its annoyoing to drivers behind you . You have to know you'll be getting flipped off. Thats just the way it is.
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Old 09-06-2012, 04:49 PM
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1984 OM.616 engine Should be 77 BHP....
--Could be tweaked maybe to 85 at a push, if you not too fussed with longevity and smoke!--Watch egt's if you do....

N/A 617 is 88 BHP....
--Can be tweaked somewhat to say, 95 BHP without too much smoke, and reasonable reliability....

Turbo 617.952 (Unobtainium in UK!--Never officially imported 'em) is 125BHP, can be tweaked to 140 bhp reasonaby easily....

Be better to rip the 616 out and fit a later OM602 or 605 Turbo from W124, use a Sprinter box--Although its in NO WAY a straight Swap!

Thats a LOT of weight for a little 616 2.4d!
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Attention Roy--- whats the replacement Throw out bearing part # for this truck??
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:26 PM
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Attention Roy--- whats the replacement Throw out bearing part # for this truck??
Busy at the moment.

I will try to look it up this evening

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Old 09-06-2012, 08:48 PM
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Turbo 617.952 (Unobtainium in UK!--Never officially imported 'em) is 125BHP, can be tweaked to 140 bhp reasonaby easily....
I was about to ask why he wanted to go the N/A route. Can OP drive the thing over to Germany/Belgium/Netherlands/whereever and "break down" and then "repair" it with a 617 Turbo motor?
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:55 AM
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i no doubt could im back in new zealand at the moment, back to scotland in November, then France for the ski season, then cruise around europe for 3 or 4 months, so i dare say i'll come across a few merc wreckers/breakers while im cruising about, got a few mates in the fatherland so ill get them to keep an eye out for me as well,
im liking the sound of a turbo 5 cylinder
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:00 AM
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the dutch guy who sold me the truck said it was a 5 speed, he lied. and I got the same granny gear 4 speed which is really a 3 speed ---with an extra low #1. for something like the truck its useful , wether its annoyoing to drivers behind you . You have to know you'll be getting flipped off. Thats just the way it is.
bloody dutch aye
mine has a 5 speed, but 1 of those 5 is the crawler gear, so really its just a 4 speed,
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Attention Roy--- whats the replacement Throw out bearing part # for this truck??
I need year and vin# to verify parts.

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I knew I would run into that and asked to OP for a vin#, friggin benz and their micky mouse chief autoparts bullsh5t3u432%$&^%$&^$%^&%$
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