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Old 10-22-2012, 12:38 PM
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More pressure data just in case

No pressure! But here's more pressure data




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Old 10-22-2012, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for all this info.

I am looking at the Brotherton DIY article on this. Is that the best resource?

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Old 10-22-2012, 02:01 PM
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I've not read it before - I'll have a skim through

I reckon you're the man to write up a really good DIY though!
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Progress... sort of

I'm breathing life into this old thread as there has been some progress on the tranny in my 1980 300td. This is a .117 trans (came out of a 240d). I now have all forward gears functional (problem appears to have been a stuck governor), but the operating pressure reading makes no sense.

Immediate questions:

- on the 722.117/118 vacuum-control-only transmissions, is the test port right beside the modulator?

- if yes, what does a reading of 12 bar indicate? (yes, 12 BAR)

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Old 07-24-2013, 04:32 PM
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Vacuum, vacuum, vacuum...not only volume, but the correct corresponding transmission control pressures MUST be observed.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:04 PM
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re 1: yes, but the other two test ports are also in the neighbourhood, so best make a picture of where you've connected the pressure gauge.



The red dot shows where you measure modulation pressure. The blue dot is the working pressure.

re 2: 12 bar under what conditions?
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:10 PM
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- on the 722.117/118 vacuum-control-only transmissions, is the test port right beside the modulator?

- if yes, what does a reading of 12 bar indicate? (yes, 12 BAR)

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Old 07-24-2013, 08:12 PM
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The red dot shows where you measure modulation pressure. The blue dot is the working pressure.

re 2: 12 bar under what conditions?
Re 1: We tested where your red dot is (beside the modulator). My bad.

Re 2: Car idling in park, per the Wiki how-to article on this site.

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