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Old 10-24-2012, 02:17 PM
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Valve cover, valves, chain stretch--240D

Hi folks!

I've got the time and money now to properly work on my WVO 240D.

I will be replacing the radiator and adding necessary additional WVO heat as soon as the parts are delivered to my door.

It was recommended back in my follow-up thread that I:

check the valves

check the timing chain stretch

and replace the leaky valve gasket since i have to replace the gasket whenever I check it anyway.

So I have some questions:

1: I need special parts to do this. What are they and what's the best place to buy them?

2: Is checking the timing chain stretch for the 240D the same as for the 300SD listed here?

3: Is there a good blow-by-blow on checking the valves?

4: What does checking the valves mean/do?

5: How long should all this take? There's an awfully important football game on this weekend.

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Old 10-24-2012, 02:45 PM
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1. dial indicator magnetic base, and a dial indicator, a set of feeler gauges, and preferably a set of bent 14mm wrenches, a good light.
2. yes.
3. Mercedes Diesel Valve Adjustment Procedure
4. see step three..
5. about a hour.
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Old 10-24-2012, 02:56 PM
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1: I need special parts to do this. What are they and what's the best place to buy them?
You will need to buy or borrow a clock gauge (DTI) and some feeler gauges. You are better off with metric instruments. You need a magnetic stand for the DTI. You also need a 27mm deep socket to turn the crank.

A set of the three valve adjusting wrenches is best - especially for a novice mechanic.

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2: Is checking the timing chain stretch for the 240D the same as for the 300SD listed here?
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Yes but you need the 240D camshaft data from the FSM instead of the OM617 turbo data presented in the DIY.

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3: Is there a good blow-by-blow on checking the valves?
Not that I know of - but I'm guessing any moment now some one will add a good guide!

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4: What does checking the valves mean/do?
Checking the valves as you put it is all about checking the valve clearance. You need to makes sure that there is a correct distance between the camshaft and the cam follower.

These values are different when the engine is cold and when the engine is warm. The definition of what is cold and warm is given in the factory service manual (FSM).

You need to get hold of a copy of the FSM at www.startekinfo.com (it is free for the W123)

You need to turn the camshaft - by turning the crank in a clockwise direction (taken as though you are standing in front of the engine looking at it).

Do not attemt to turn the camshaft (by hand) in any other way. Do not turn the engine "backwards" the timing chain is known to snag when going backwards on these engines.

Some people say to turn the crank / camshaft via the utility belts - I don't like the idea as you can end up damaging stuff. Think about it this way; the power steering pump was designed to be driven not to drive the engine...

You need to turn the crank slowly in a controlled manner so that you can position a cam lobe in a vertical direction. To do this easily you are best off removing all of the glow plugs so that you don't have to fight compression. This also means that the engine won't start (there's no compression so it can't) by some sheer fluke of unluckiness...

...even so you should check to make sure that the stop lever is at its stop position on the IP so you don't get unwanted fuel in the cylinders which then leaks through into the engine oil diluting it (again this would be an unlucky fluke occurance).

Anyway, once you've got a cam lobe up in the air - use your eyes and look through between the gap below the camshaft and the top of the rocker arm. You should be able to see through between these two parts.

You now know where to stick your feeler gauge! Choose a small thickness (smaller than the prescribed value in the FSM) and GENTLY stab it into the gap. If it goes through make the thickness thicker by adding in a thin gauge and meaure again.

Keep on going until you can no longer slide the feeler gauge(s) through the gap.

With practice you'll get to know about the "feel" of a feeler gauge that is just right => it will slide through the gap without causing any damage. It will be slightly tight...

...it is a bit difficult to explain but basically if you try and add the thinnest gauge to the thickness you already have and it will no longer go through then you've got it right.

Please note - you need to use mental arithmetic to add up the pack of the gauge thicknesses you have. Don't be lazy and get all up set when you don't have exactly the single thickness in one gauge that you want!

If in doubt adjust the valve clearances on these engines on the slightly loose side as they tend to tighten with use.

You keep on going until you've checked each valve.

Make sure you don't get confused between intake and exhaust - they have different values - see the FSM.

Many people either write down which one they have checked or make a chalk mark / pen mark on the spray bar above each cam lobe.


To adjust a valve clearance you need to use the special tool valve adjusting wrenches. At the top of the valve spring there is a hex shaped "nut" that often needs to be held in position to stop the valve from turning. Loosen the other two nuts. The adjustment is made by turning the top of these two top nuts. The lower top nut is the lock nut.

Check the valve clearance again after you have tightened the lock nut.

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5: How long should all this take? There's an awfully important football game on this weekend.
Assuming you are doing a valve adjustment and a timing chain check - I would expect this to take a novice mechanic as long as the whole weekend for the first time. The second time will be less than half of the time spent.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:42 PM
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My best advice is in post# 3.

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Many people either write down which one they have checked or make a chalk mark / pen mark on the spray bar above each cam lobe.
You can also use clothes pegs.




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To adjust a valve clearance you need to use the special tool valve adjusting wrenches. At the top of the valve spring there is a hex shaped "nut" that often needs to be held in position to stop the valve from turning. Loosen the other two nuts. The adjustment is made by turning the botton of these two top nuts. The top top nut is the lock nut.
The top nut (nr. 1 in the picture below) is the adjusting nut. The bottom nut (nr. 2) is the lock nut.



When you lock the adjusting nut, the adjusting nut will come up in the thread a bit, causing the valve clearance to decrease, so you have to be a bit on the loose side before you lock the adjusting nut.
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I'm getting tired - thanks for the correction Govert. (I'll edit my text in post #3)

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