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Old 02-03-2013, 10:21 PM
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240-300d?

will a manul 240 d fly wheel fit a 300sd crank?
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Old 02-03-2013, 10:29 PM
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:51 PM
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what i have found is a bunch of pish posh. about the fly wheel weight but not not about what year fly wheel to buy .

i will keep searching.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:56 PM
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Yes, the 240 fw will fit the 300 crank. the 300 fw is 10# heavier and will offer nicer shifting characteristics and a smoother idle but the lighter 240 fw will work just fine.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:19 AM
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Yes, the 240 fw will fit the 300 crank. the 300 fw is 10# heavier and will offer nicer shifting characteristics and a smoother idle but the lighter 240 fw will work just fine.

i'll try looking for a 300 fw as well then. i thought those fw's were Europe only.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:38 AM
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By what I see here, rarely found in US, easier to find in europe as a G- class and transporter spare, but not at all cheap. If it's beneficial to have your project done this year instead of next, I'd jump in w/ the 240 D flywheel. Remember to mark your flex plate before you take it off, match balance the FW to it. Seems like a more productive worry to me.
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Tom is your friend too. Tom, don't you know something about the pilot bearing fitting/not fitting the 300 crank?
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:46 AM
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i found 300d fly wheel OUCH!

trying to source a 240 unit as well. i find the bolts ring gear and clutch kits but no FW yet .
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:46 AM
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is a fly wheel a dealer only item?
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:11 AM
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Some numbers here to help - use with caution!!! I don't think you can get any of them from the dealer anymore though

6170320001 OM617 manual flywheel (commonly found number on the internet)

6170300005 OM617 manual flywheel (Russian EPC)

6150301205 OM617 automatic flywheel (Russian EPC)

1150320801 Apparently early OM617 flywheel (I'm not 100% sure about this number though see link below)

1150320601 OM615/OM616 manual flywheel (Commonly found number on the internet)

Part number for OM617 fly wheel
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There are the 617 FW out there in Grey market cars, they come available from time to time. check on E-Bay, CL, and the for sale section of this forum and others.

I found a 617 FW after 3 yrs of searching. Found mine in PNP on a 81 300D Euro. $27.

240D FW`s are more prevalant, and will bolt onto a 300SD W126 engine Crank. they will fit the OM617 engines, Turbo and none Turbo.

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Old 02-04-2013, 08:00 AM
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The 85 cranks have a smaller hole in the back where the pilot bearing goes. Some have modified their pilot bearings to fit and some have simply frozen the bearing and heated the crank to get them in.

I concur that the biggest concern is the matching of the flywheels. Mark it on your fw and crank where it goes then have it checked for balance. If it is neutrally balanced which most are and your stick flywheel is neutrally balanced you are good. If either is not neutrally balanced the new flywheel will have to be match balanced to the fw coming off your engine. This is a very important step as a mis match will shake your eye teeth out.

It is true the 300 was never offered here in the states with a stick so they originate on euro motors.
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If it is neutrally balanced which most are and your stick flywheel is neutrally balanced you are good. If either is not neutrally balanced the new flywheel will have to be match balanced to the fw coming off your engine. This is a very important step as a mis match will shake your eye teeth out.
Flywheels (and crakshafts) are balanced when they are manufactured. Not sure why they should get out of balance after the fact or need to be rebalanced unless you're building a racing engine or some sort of damage has occurred. Different flywheel weights, the stored energy, will have effect on the dynamics of the engine though.
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Flywheels (and crakshafts) are balanced when they are manufactured. Not sure why they should get out of balance after the fact or need to be rebalanced unless you're building a racing engine or some sort of damage has occurred. Different flywheel weights, the stored energy, will have effect on the dynamics of the engine though.
This has been discussed in great detail in other threads. The consensus (along with the FSM) indicates the crank and flywheel are balanced as a unit which does not necessarily mean the flywheel is not neutral. Most threads I've read where an OM617 was placed in front of a manual the OP chose to neutral balance the flywheel and not worry about it. A few had the flexplate check and if it wasn't neutral they balanced the flywheel to match. I've not read a single thread where they neutral balanced a flywheel and then encountered problems so I guess its the proceed at your own risk.
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Old 02-04-2013, 06:06 PM
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Flywheels (and crakshafts) are balanced when they are manufactured. Not sure why they should get out of balance after the fact or need to be rebalanced unless you're building a racing engine or some sort of damage has occurred. Different flywheel weights, the stored energy, will have effect on the dynamics of the engine though.
they're not saying a flywheel gets out of balance on the engine it's installed on, they are saying if you take a flywheel from one engine and put it on the other, the balance needs to match the engine the flywheel is going on.
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