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Old 07-03-2013, 12:48 PM
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

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Old 07-03-2013, 12:50 PM
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How would I evacuate the stuff into a reclaim jug? Do they give those containers away for free? Probably not...

Oops, I just saw your other posts...
the disposable jugs are $30 brand new, and if you keep your gauges on them, and do NOT CLOSE THE VALVE, you can put the 12 back in your car when you are done.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:12 PM
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Don't close the valve on the jug? Why is that important?
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:20 PM
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because the disposable jugs are one use only... you close the valve, and it does not open.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:21 PM
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they are thin, and not made for repeat use. the reusable tanks are over 200 each, but they can be traded in with used refrigerant in them, and you get a clean new tank on exchange.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:47 PM
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Old 07-03-2013, 03:24 PM
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the disposable jugs are $30 brand new, and if you keep your gauges on them, and do NOT CLOSE THE VALVE, you can put the 12 back in your car when you are done.
Is this all I would need? Who sells them? I would be storing this for (let's be honest) a month. Would the disposable be able to do that?
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Old 07-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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That will get most if the 12 out.any hvac supply house will have them.united refrigeration, cc Dickson, r.e. Michael...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:37 PM
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Hmmm... I took a gauge I got with an R134a kit, and I didn't get any pressure from the low pressure line. I guess I don't need to worry about collecting R12 after all -- right? Or is there something else that could keep me from reading any pressure in the system?
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:17 PM
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If its connected to the line and it's depressing the Schrader, and the gauge works yourflat... Sorry youll have to buy more.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:29 PM
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Regardless of the refrigerant, it is illegal to vent refrigerants to the environment.
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Old 07-06-2013, 12:40 AM
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Regardless of the refrigerant, it is illegal to vent refrigerants to the environment.
Uhhhh, not quite true. It's illegal to vent R-12 into the atmosphere. I know of no scenario where it's legal other than accident, unintentional leaks or other such situations.

However, it turns out that it is perfectly legal to vent the refrigerant R134a into the atmosphere provided the refrigerant is in a duster can, and not a refrigeration system.

Duster cans generally contain one of two refrigerants - R134a or R152a. This simply means that to vent your auto A/C system legally, you need to route it through a duster can such as Blow Off as illustrated in the hypothetical scenario below. The can serves as a temporary recovery vessel, which you can then use to dust off a keyboard, your fender or any other dusty surface that is in the proximate area. Be very careful not to vent directly - only through the cans nozzle.




I'll leave it to anyone curious to explain the rational difference in the two scenarios, but that's the law courtesy of the EPA (and the lobbyists for the refrigeration industry).

By the way, it is possible to use 152a (standard duster propellant) in your A/C system and it will work just fine. There are some side effects e.g. HF gas being one of the by-products of combustion should the product catch fire that you should be aware of. However, if it's safe enough to use indoors around electronic gear, it's arguably ok in other, even better ventilated environments...but I leave that decision up to the individual.

You can also use 134a out of a duster can to charge your system if you happen to have the proper can piercer adapter.

This information is specifically provided for entertainment purposes only and should not be relied on in any manner for any action. Consult your own attorney before proceeding. The author did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Old 07-06-2013, 01:35 AM
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Quite a stretch but A for effort!
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