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Rebuild your OM601 OM602 OM603 hydraulic lifters
I searched and haven't seen this option addressed on the forum yet. Instead of replacing your noisy lifters you can rebuild them. The MB lifters are mechanically identical to these VW lifters.
https://youtu.be/ySf0r8GGMOY One of my OM603 lifter fully disassembled. ![]() The oil that was trapped in the lifter was way move viscous than the dirty oil that I usually drain out of the engine. Almost looked like sludge. I didn't find as much varnish as in the video but the Berrymans cleaned them out nicely.
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Oh no! Stretch found more things to take apart. Jk
I've been wondering if you just pulled the valve cover and poured some detergent on them. Maybe cycle it over kinda like a soak. I almost had to pull some on a different manufacturer (don't judge) gas motor and the book said 15 hours. |
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I ended up just replacing mine as well. I blew out each oil oil inside the head, and ended up blowing out the cam journals as well. Everything was clear. Gsxr had pieces of his failed headgasket get pumped up into the galleries for the cam and lifters, starving them for oil and making them clack. Not good.
This is a very good way to save some money. ![]() Quote:
The lifters on the 601/2/3 are right on top of the valve stem, under the cam lobe. The lifters on a 4L Jeep Cherokee engine for example, are in the block above the camshaft. HUGE job to replace those compared to this. So 15 hours might be correct for other designs, but not this OHC design.
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Guess I should have messed with mine! I was frustrated with them in my 603 so I just bought a set of them, cost me $200 iirc.
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Probably better with the hours.
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Nice post. I wonder if the 606 lifters are rebuildable as well, I may be rebuilding mine if that is the case. As I think I have a bad lifter in my '99
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Rebuild your OM601 OM602 OM603 hydraulic lifters
Yeah far fetched. Lol. But maybe worth a try. If you can break that stuff up with a solvent, with time they may flush out. On a POS, I would try it before they fully collapse. Some people have had success. But this is outside Mercedes we're talking here.
But they say that hole in the lifter for oil to come in is the most precisely machined part of a motor. Lots of different motors out there. This is DOHC with similar design, 15 on the book. But in order to get the belt off, to get the cams out, you have to remove the crank pully. Can of worms. Then here's the vvt system. Granted, 15 hours on the book is probably a lot less in real life. Still not fun. With any lifter, the only difference you will find is one or two springs inside. Always one for the check valve, but there may be a secondary to lift it up before pressure builds. Unless you get into exotics. Then who knows. All and all, I think I would replace if possible. Unless it's a junker. Then I try a flush, until it fully collapses. Just oil weights and types can quiet them down. I would rather adjust valves. Lol. I don't like them. Not to mention that you get a lower redline with hydraulics, and if you go over, you are going to over pump it. If you don't shut it down, you can interface the valves into the head When they are sunk in with pushrods, they make a tool to extract them. It can be easy, on most motors. If I had a jeep that needed engine work I would pull it and put something else in. Jk. |
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That's a myth. There's no way for that to happen. "Overpumped lifters" is an old wive's tale.
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I sorta wonder if you could disassemble and clean the timing chain tensioner. Aren't they hydraulic as well?
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Current: 1975 450SEL, 83 300D, 88 Yugo GVX, 90 300D OM603 swap, 91 F150 4.6 4v swap, 93 190E Sportline LE 3.0L M104 swap, 93 190E Sportline LE Megasquirt, 03 Sprinter, 06 E500 4Matic wagon. |
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Oh trust me. It can happen. And your auto shop teacher will get really upset as well. Lol. I was 16.
But I mean that's on a motor pushing 800 horsepower. Probably unlikely in a driver. |
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Failure of the pressure regulator can also make the oil filter explode ![]() Discuss: Oil Filter Overpressurized - TDIClub Forums -J
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You experienced valve float then. Not overpumped lifters. That's a failure of the valve spring to return the valve to closed position before the piston advanced within the valve's travel.
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Rebuild your OM601 OM602 OM603 hydraulic lifters
Nope. Sprigs were rated for it. Lifters were not. Poor decision to run hydraulics.
Last edited by Lucas; 04-20-2015 at 12:36 AM. |
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Rebuild your OM601 OM602 OM603 hydraulic lifters
Vg
Last edited by Lucas; 04-20-2015 at 12:05 PM. |
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