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View Poll Results: To buy or not to buy!?
Sounds great on the face of it 1 8.33%
If it checks out, sounds good 7 58.33%
Probably too good to be true 0 0%
Meh. I wouldn't. (price/mileage) 3 25.00%
This model is the worst of all possible worlds 1 8.33%
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Old 07-09-2015, 10:57 AM
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I hate to suggest it but with your budget and your future requirements it sounds like a Honda might be a better bet...

...after my escapades with a W201 a Ford Ranger was recommended! So perhaps something American that is cheap to repair would also be better?

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Old 07-09-2015, 11:02 AM
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You might want to also consider a '95 W124 E300 or 300D from early 90's. These are very reliable cars. Try to find one down south and bring back to CT/NJ.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:37 AM
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I hate to suggest it but with your budget and your future requirements it sounds like a Honda might be a better bet...

...after my escapades with a W201 a Ford Ranger was recommended! So perhaps something American that is cheap to repair would also be better?
It is too early in the morning coffee break for that kind of talk.



You have wounded me in my very soul, sir.

...he currently drives an '02 Ford Explorer that is rusted out. I have waited for him to switch to a Benz for soooo looooooong (and to stop driving my sedan like all get out!). Will talk with him about the possibility of an earlier car rather than a later one though. Also, Stretch, point taken—albeit reluctantly. I'd just love to see him driving a sweet diesel Benz is all.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:02 PM
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You might want to also consider a '95 W124 E300 or 300D from early 90's. These are very reliable cars. Try to find one down south and bring back to CT/NJ.
Or a 96/97 non turbo w210 e300 if its substantially cheaper. Just don't buy one that has wintered in the rust belt.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:08 PM
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Or a 96/97 non turbo w210 e300 if its substantially cheaper. Just don't buy one that has wintered in the rust belt.
The non-turbos are dogs. Driven both non-turbo and turbo, I'd never get a non-turbo model. They are cheaper though which I'd assume is because the turbo model is more desirable. If the non-turbo had a 6-speed, I'd buy one then.
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Old 07-09-2015, 01:52 PM
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Non-turbos with properly working resonance system has plenty of pick-up for almost all normal driving conditions. I've cruised at 100mph out west.
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Old 07-09-2015, 03:26 PM
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The non-turbos are dogs. Driven both non-turbo and turbo, I'd never get a non-turbo model. They are cheaper though which I'd assume is because the turbo model is more desirable. If the non-turbo had a 6-speed, I'd buy one then.
Still faster than any stock w123 diesel and most w124 diesels which people around here don't seem to complain about. Unfortunately most of the om606 non turbos of this age have the intake stuffed full of soot and oil and the ecu is smart enough to cut fuel proportionaly so it doesn't smoke. Clean out the intake, block off the EGR and they come back to life. The 5spd auto is a nice touch as well. Mine was $2k and despite needing some work it turned out to be an excellent car.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:07 AM
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Here is a 98 that is available in Hazlehurst, JawJa. A friend of mine stopped by to look at and stated it started up and drove out well. Price looks in line.

You will have to scroll down to find it in the ad.

98 E300

Our 98 E300 is the wifes DD.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:32 AM
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A more helpful Diesel Mercedes option (given the requirements of use)

Mercedes Benz E Class W211 2006 Facelift Road Test | Road Tests | Honest John

The problem probably is the cost of the damn thing - they are expensive for a reason.

Must get a post 2006 uprated W211 not the early ones - this is important so make sure you know what you're getting especially if car loans are involved!
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:18 PM
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In the U.S. the 2006-2007 W211 transition is major even though the cars look the same from the outside.

2005, 2006 W211 is the E320 CDI, equipped with the inline 6 cylinder OM648. The downside of these models is they have the SBS electronic time bomb brakes.

2007 and later W211 are known as E320 Bluetec although I believe they did not start the (idiotic) urea injection until 2008. These have the V-6 OM642 that is not as near easy to work on (I have one in the ML). However they went back to traditional ABS brakes on these models.

Both engines have their issues - OM642 gets the infamous oil cooler leak (stupid $15 seal leaks that takes dozens of hours to change) and the OM648 gets the injector "Black Death" (injector seals leak, carbon blows out, covers the injector assembly in black tar).

The good side of the 211 vs the 210 is the fact that only the first gen 210 is available in the U.S. with a Diesel - the 1996 to 1999 models. There are no 2nd gen 210 U.S. models available with Diesel between 2000 and 2004.

The major first gen 210 issue has to do with the new water based paint process causing body rust. The spring perch issue is also major. By the time they got to the 2nd gen 210s (2000-2004) they had figured out the problems, but there are no Diesels available in the U.S. for these years.
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Had a 99e300 and was very happy with it, drove nice, good pickup and good mpg

Sold it to my best friend and i now have an 06cdi

Think they are both good cars
Both older vehicles at this point and will require work here and there

Would think they are both pretty easy to self repair
Much easier than my v6 08
They both have their particular issues which i think is probably an issue on mostcars on the roads

Good luck and hope you find a good one and like it
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:06 PM
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Thanks and thanks for all the suggestions.

Those are all beautiful cars, but yes, much too expensive for us for now. We both firmly believe in buying cars outright with no car loans, so he may just wait a few years with the e300 (if he buys it) and then upgrade. He decided on a firm budget and he's sticking to it.

I think his plan now is to go away and learn a lot more about the model and schedule a time to see the car again. My plan now is to find a tacky joke-gift in case he buys it.

EDIT: I just got off the phone with him and he got a job offer down there (we were moving for my job) so maybe something else is a real option depending on the salary offer (tbd). I dunno though, I think he may have already fallen for the e300. He opened it up on the highway and sympathy for the devil came on the radio and I think that might have been it. He was beaming.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:18 PM
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Oh good - another direction





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The cheese ones are calling to me...

Was also thinking neon pink rim tape, the car is white.
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Old 07-10-2015, 02:43 PM
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The cheese ones are calling to me...

Was also thinking neon pink rim tape, the car is white.
Cheese ones are on Amazon - you can also get pink caps for the valves on the tyres and pink reflective hearts for the number plates...

...so I've been told (I mean I'm of course not into such things)

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