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Old 09-21-2015, 11:53 AM
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Are all these 240D`s that you guys have to keep floored (peddle to the metal) automatics?
I really don`t have this problem with my 80 240D manual trans.

I agree as to Mbeige said.
Things have to be properly adjusted and working correctly to maximize max pwr.

I had this part fail on my 240, the rubber was tearing in two. so I could
not get to full movement to the linkage.

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This part was used on the 80 240D and SD. Not sure of the 300D or if only one yr or???

Here is the thread on that.
Throttle Linkage Part

Here is another type the fell apart.


Here is the thread on that
Is this the throttle bushing? 240D

Make sure all the Ball and Sockets on the linkages are lubed. Most I see
in the yards haven`t see any type of lube in years and are rusty.


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Old 09-21-2015, 08:48 PM
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Here's a 240D passing another vehicle on the Autobahn. It is possible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VmMci7Q1so
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Old 09-21-2015, 09:24 PM
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Here's a 240D passing another vehicle on the Autobahn. It is possible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VmMci7Q1so
What's 130kph work out to? 60?70?

As quiet as that car is running at that speed, it's certainly a manual trans, probably a 5 speed no less...
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Old 10-06-2015, 11:22 PM
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Here's a 240D passing another vehicle on the Autobahn. It is possible!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VmMci7Q1so
The video says 240D. But the lighted sunvisor mirror says 300D (unless those options are a-la-carte for W123s in Europe).
Wasn't impressed with the big screws holding the wood trim to the dash.

My solid-body 240D, with a factory replacement engine, is pretty quiet when revved or cruising on the highway and passing power is decent. When pushed, that engine sounds closer to a 4-cyl gasser. It's actually quieter than my '84 Euro 300TD. Then again, the Euro has more rust and perhaps less soundproofing and maybe the open cargo bay magnifies noise.
Either car is serene compared to my first diesel - a $200, rusty & tired automatic 240D, well thrashed by the PO's teenagers. That car was nearly deafening at speeds above 60 mph!

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Old 10-09-2015, 11:20 PM
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a lot of folks who pass me in my 300D on the flats typically don't do well on the inclines, and that's where I pass them with my 300D.
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Same here, what a pain on mountain roads. They go flying by on the flats then get in my way on the grades. Same in my F-350 but they do tend to move out of my way in that one.

Is it true that 240D/Auto owners keep binoculars on the passenger seat to watch for a gap before pulling out into traffic?
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Old 09-22-2015, 02:58 AM
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100 kph is 60 mph.

I absolutely hate climbing hills in my 190D. It's scary.
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Old 09-22-2015, 07:08 AM
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Old 09-29-2015, 02:13 AM
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Not sure how a 240 stacks up against a 1963 190dc, but in general you just have to commit the engine to full output most of the time. Downhill excess speed is just an investment in the next uphill. There is no mentum like mo mentum. On a flat that car would do 65-70, flat out, after about 5 minutes of acceleration, with a tailwind.

Marginal power is kind of fun because it really makes you aware of subtle changes in road grade that would go unnoticed in a more powerful car, like a 617. And you really feel like you are getting your money's worth with the pedal on the floor all the time. I mean, who gets to drive a car like that in normal traffic? Fast cars are such a waste on public roads.
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Old 09-29-2015, 02:18 AM
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You would notice the subtle changes in a 617/60x if you ran flat out too......
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Old 09-29-2015, 03:51 PM
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I am.planning to test that theory soon.

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Old 09-30-2015, 12:08 PM
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Still cleaning up my recently rescued automatic 240D. At the moment, I may as well install a light switch in place of the pedal...

I'll go over the throttle linkages eventually... it's definitely on the list.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:14 PM
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Still cleaning up my recently rescued automatic 240D. At the moment, I may as well install a light switch in place of the pedal...

I'll go over the throttle linkages eventually... it's definitely on the list.
It does not cost anything to address the throttle linkages.. unless you have a broken piece like that rubber connector... but many have been pleasantly surprised at how much difference having them correct made... with so little power from the factory.. you really don't want to cede any to a simple mechanical arrangement which does not allow you to apply full ' throttle'.
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Old 09-30-2015, 12:43 PM
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One of the first things I did when addressing the power of my 190D was to make sure I had absolute maximum pedal travel and could get 100% full rack travel. I recorded a video from my phone of the IP linkage. First I pushed it all the way to the full load stop with my hand, then I went in and pushed the pedal to the floor and watched the video to verify the pedal moved the linkage to full load.

Between linkage, fuel filters and tank screen, lift pump and overflow valve, injectors, injection timing and cam timing you can get most of its original power back.
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:44 AM
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Nothing broken that I can see, but it's all pretty sloppy in there. Haven't found (read - haven't looked for) a good reference for the correct lengths and travel yet. On the list...

Video sounds like a good idea, though I can't really see much from the drivers seat. Maybe if I didn't raise the hood all the way to the service position every time, I'd have a better view. I already swapped all the filters, but I still need to check the tank screen... also on the list...
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Old 10-06-2015, 01:34 AM
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DO take the time to look in the FSM for the pull and push rod lengths ~ they're usually way off .

Once they're correct your shifting will improve greatly .

I just did all this on my 349,XXX mile 1982 240D with only 200 # compression in # 1 cylinder , wow what an improvement !~ it's very zippy and doesn't need full throttle almost never to go as fast as it's going to go ~ this is how you know you've got it right : they're not very speedy but should get there easily on the flat .

I was able to bury the speedo needle , a pleasant surprise , I need to find my Garmin and see what's the actual top speed now , it used to run out of steam @ 83 MPH , dead flat , no wind , etc.
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