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View Poll Results: Is the glow plug reamer really necessary, in your experience? | |||
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21 | 70.00% |
No |
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9 | 30.00% |
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll |
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#61
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Reamer coating is a pretty high volume operation. You are probably looking a 0.5 cents worth of grease times five glow plugs. Just the thought of that makes me wish I had a 240D instead of a 300D.
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Glow plug maintenance is a complex subject. We are just now dealing with grease color schemes. Once that is complete, we can move on to selecting the best phase of the moon for GP reaming.
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I want to buy one of those drill bit reamers.....
I have quite a few different types of grease for various applications .
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blahhh i hate having to take off all the linkage and the hard lines and all that!!! haha but i got it done. tried to work around it for a while but wasted a good 45 mins doing that lol
ok so how come i would unscrew the plugs all the way and when it got to the end no matter how much i ratchet wrenched them they wouldnt screw completely out?? had to unscrew and pull at the same time by hand to get them all out? is suction hold them in?
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#66
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I have got the plugs loose then,stuck a piece of hose on,the,end and turned it out like used to be done on spark plugs.
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I'm told that's because of the accumulated carbon you're hoping to remove .
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-Nate 1982 240D 408,XXX miles Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better |
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Sounds like your plugs were were all carboned up. I reckon you now have the answer to your poll question.
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I have a '98 e300. I voted to ream. I've owned it for nearly 11 years and have changed the glow plugs twice. It's a major project to change glow plugs on my car, because the intake manifold has to be removed.
The first time I changed them, I was an absolute newby and went by the book, except for the number 1 (front) cylinder. I had a devil of a time getting that glow plug out. (The rest came out easy.) I carefully reamed the back five cylinders, but just went through the motions on the front one as I was afraid I had damaged the threads. Well, the car worked well for three years, then one of the plugs went bad -- it was the front one. This time, I spent a lot of time on the first cylinder, using the reamer five or six time -- until I got no carbon when I used it. I think I would not have had to do it a second time if I had reamed the 1 cylinder better the first time. Taking the intake manifold of is such a pain in the rear, that buying a reamer is merely an incidental expense on my car. I now think a person should continue reaming on each cylinder until ha gets no more carbon on the reamer. I am not a typical diesel owner. In the nearly 11 years I've owned the car, I've put only 45,000 miles on it. That is an average of 4 to 5 thousand a year. Today is a typical day for me. I went to McDonald's for breakfast (a half mile); then drove to Office Depot to buy some glue (a half mile); then drove to the other side of the strip mall for scotch (a block or two); then drove home (less than a mile). It's not the best way to keep a diesel in tune. |
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I think it depends on the year since the pre-chambers vary. Some have a narrow throat, which places the glow plug in a "cave" that may trap carbon. A guy here posted photos showing both types years ago (search). In at least one of my 300D's, while doing an injector job I looked straight down at the glow plugs to insure the tips were glowing. There was no carbon at all and pre-chamber was an open bowl w/ the cross-ball thing below the glow plug. Probably my 1985, but perhaps w/ the replacement engine (~1982), so I can't say which type was earlier. Non-turbo's may be different still.
Once, I ran a tap thru all the glow-plug holes as a reamer and it came out clean, showing no carbon to clean. I recall that was the time I looked down, since recall seeing the tap protruding into the pre-chamber. Thus, I haven't worried about it. BTW, you can buy a full set of metric taps for the cost of the single reamer, and probably need a set for other things. For removing & installing glow plugs and their wiring nut, a ratcheting box wrench is a great tool since you can swing it between the injector tubes. With a regular box wrench, you will spend a lot of time fooling w/ the wrench and dropping it.
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#71
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Yes, the first time I removed my Glow Plugs 2 of them made an eeking sound as I backed them out. Another reason for stuck Glow Plugs in a 617.952 Engine are if you used Glow Plugs like Autolite Glow Plugs. I had he tips on two of them swell up in only 6 months uses. I almost did not get one of them out.
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That squeak is a scary sound to the experienced Mechanic.....
I'm using Monark GP's now ~ I hope I haven't screwed the pooch .
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[QUOTE=vwnate1;3793501]That squeak is a scary sound to the experienced Mechanic.....
I'm using Monark GP's now ~ I hope I haven't screwed the pooch .[/QUOTE} I corrected my past post. It was Autolite Glow Plugs that the tips swelled up on. However, I replaced them with Monarks because that is what I already had. 2 of the Monarks lasted only one year here in sunny CA but non of them swelled up. But, I do glow before each start. The picture I attached in this thread of a Glow Plug that is heating in the middle instead of the tip is a Monark Glow Plug.
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#74
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Glow plugs do not "swell up". Their tips get coated with carbon from a poor running engine.
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#75
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In some cases, they most certainly do.
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