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Old 03-03-2019, 10:28 AM
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I clamped a Vice Grip on the tube but mine was out of chassis. Might work in chassis, might not. Be forewarned that the thick gasket going into the pan is a STINKER to get back in (did that in chassis). It's stiff enough that it doesn't like to compress enough to slide into it's groove though with silicone lube I did eventually get it to go. I used a socket and extension as a driver to pound it in.

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Old 03-03-2019, 06:35 PM
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I pushed mine out with a socket from underneath (small jack) and pushed it in by putting hose clamps on the tube and tapping it down using a long 3/8 extension and small ball peen hammer. I posted pics to the thread. Perhaps it will show up in a search.

Look on youtube. There is a method where you can get the upper & Lower parts of the tube lined up a certain way and give the tube a jerk and the 2 halves will force each other in to where they are supposed to go.
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:49 PM
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OK, I have picked at the grommet. I attached a contraption onto the tube using tubing that fits around the outside of the tube held in place with hose clamps. Then I used a lever to pull up on the tube. With leverage I'm sure I was putting a few hundred pounds of upwards force on it. NO movement. Monday evening, After I repair the lever that I broke, I'm going to try it applying heat to the bottom of the tube to soften up the kryptonite strength grommet. Wish me luck.
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Old 03-05-2019, 12:48 AM
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I just tried using my contraption pulling with hundreds of pounds of upward force. And I did this while warming the lower grommet with a heat gun. No luck. In the DIY articles it doesn't warn us that getting that tube out is nearly impossible without removing the lower oil pan. Tomorrow evening I remove the oil pan unless someone here comes up with a bright idea to save me the work...
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:58 AM
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It's no big deal to drop the lower oil pan, you'll be able to wipe out the accumulated sludge at the same time .

If you're working in the street, drive both passenger side wheels up on the curb making certain the tread is fully up on the curb ! .

Lots of space to work then .
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:19 PM
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OK, I dropped the pan. Not a big deal. But, what IS a big deal is that pounding on that tube from underneath, it still won't pop out. It seems there is something holding it in there. Has anyone had a hard time getting these out from the bottom?
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Use a trolley jack and a wooden dowel to 'press' it out without damaging the bore.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:57 PM
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Right now the engine it sitting about 3 inches high in the engine bay because the deep socket is being jacked up by a floor jack. I also pulled from the top on a hose held onto the lower tube by a hose clamp. Nothing. It's still not coming out. Why don't all of the DIY articles warn that this is one of the more difficult jobs on this engine? I'd rather replace the starter.

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Old 03-05-2019, 09:27 PM
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Kneel on the valvecover, adding your body weight will give a counter-push against the jack.

If that fails, spray your favorite penetrant (Kroil, or biodiesel, 50/50 ATF/acetone mix, etc.) on the rubber grommet to soften the rubber.

Let it sit overnight on the jack...might move by the morning.
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:42 PM
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Alec, I've done everything except the penetrant oil. I'll try PB Blaster. (Does anyone else think that stuff smells like candy)

Any other ideas you all have will be tried as well. Thanks!
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:18 AM
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CAREFULLY drill small vertical holes into the rubber grommet to weaken it.
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Old 03-06-2019, 12:51 AM
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CAREFULLY drill small vertical holes into the rubber grommet to weaken it.
I'll look and see if that's possible to get a drill down there.

Other ideas?
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Old 03-06-2019, 02:15 AM
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Pencil propane torch (or long reach lighter) and buddy with fire extinguisher at the ready.

Heat a coat hanger until red hot and burn the grommet that way.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:39 AM
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I like the heat idea better. I don't think I can get a drill in there.
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Another thought, a drywall screw (with a long screwdriver) could be use like a auger bit to remove material from the grommet

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