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Old 03-17-2003, 04:26 PM
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Great info. Getting the starter out seems more difficult. I could not get out there today so hopefully tomorrow I will try.
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:27 PM
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Follow the wires up from the starter to see if they go to a junction box. If so, the purple wire triggers the solenoid. Jump that wire to the red wire with a short lead and see if the engine turns over. If it sparks, and doesn't work, then it is a bad starter or bad connection. This test rules out everything else as the culprit.
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:44 PM
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My car does the same sometimes.... everything will work until when it comes time to crank it... all I do is turn the key all the way off, and move the shifter through the gears and back into "P"ark. If that doesn't work, try starting it in "N"eutral. Hopefully it is something as easy as this!
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Old 03-19-2003, 02:21 AM
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The recommendation by jhal is probably the simplest approach. I have never traced the solenoid wire to a terminal block, but have heard there is supposed to be one on the passenger side inner front fender. If you find the terminal block, I would be inclined to jump the wire to the solenoid from this terminal block directly to the battery positive terminal. If that does not work the starter is the culprit, as jhal noted.

If the starter is bad, and you have no record of changing it, I would be inclined to replace the starter in its entirety. I believe you have to take the starter out to change the solenoid, and that is not always a walk in the park. Good luck, Jim
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Old 03-29-2003, 06:21 PM
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got out there to try the suggestions but it started to rain. The starter looks like a bear to get out
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:03 AM
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I'm gonna chip in with NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH too here
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Old 03-30-2003, 10:41 AM
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