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Old 01-26-2004, 09:48 PM
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Talking Engine BLOCK Heater ideas

:EDIT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_heater :EDIT:

Hello Everyone
Here are some ideas:
http://www.servicemate.com/catalog/categories.aspx?ParentID=160
Here is the url without the www section:
servicemate.com/nonflash_files/links/engine_block_heater.html

Engine Block Heater

Circulation Heaters

Industrial Tank Heater

Hilton Industries Cordless Engine Heater
Propane Fired
Eliminated Costly Idling

Lower Radiator Hose Heaters
Installs in minutes in non-corrogated lower radiator hose.

Diesel Fuel Heaters

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Basic cheap, off the shelf options.

engine dipstick heater
https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+dipstick+heater&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=MPmXUNOvN6mJywHMooCgBg&biw=1280&bih=883&sei=MvmXUPPUFOaMyA GAlIHgCw

magnetic block heater
https://www.google.com/search?q=magnetic+block+heater&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

engine block pad heater
https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+block+pad+heater&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=r_iXUIioJOOeywGGn4GwCA&biw=1280&bih=883&sei=sviXUOr5OKr7yg GG8oC4DA

engine block coolant heater
https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+block+coolant+heater&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9viXUIX-PIeeywHUlICYBQ&biw=1280&bih=883&sei=-viXULj2B8uFyQHtpYGQDA

https://www.google.com/search?q=engine+block+heater&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=V_iXUIWqDsqayQGq5IDwBw&biw=1280&bih=883&sei=WviXULSAB6SayQ HTkIDQBw

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Old 01-26-2004, 10:00 PM
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Thumbs up diesel powered coolant heater

http://www.espar.com/

I'd worry about the electrical consumption on a car with only one battery though.

btw, your link doesn't work

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Old 01-26-2004, 10:47 PM
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Wink the link should work now.

the link should work now.

btw a second battery is easy to install on a diesel.
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Old 01-27-2004, 07:40 AM
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Lightbulb Propane Fired Cordless Engine Heater

Hello Everyone.
This looks interesting, think I will look into it.
Hilton Industries Cordless Engine Heater
Propane Fired
$600.00 USD

The heater uses 5.4 ounces of propane per hour.
A 20# cylinder of propane will last approximately 60 hours.

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I think the Espar makes more sense. It runs on diesel. No extra tank, fuel system, etc. Should be able to just plumb into the fuel feed to the engine. They are programmable so they can be set to warm up an hour or so before you intend to use the vehicle. I would think that the battery could survive the 1.1amp draw during this time? Even on low the Espar should get the motor pretty warm in an hour. RT
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:25 PM
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Thumbs up looking at the Espar now

I am looking at the Espar now; it does make more sense.

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Old 01-27-2004, 10:31 PM
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Just think how fast you'd get warm air in the cabin too!

I like it. I'll have to look into it on the 300SDL rebuild.

Roy,

You getting one for yours?
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:54 AM
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Talking "YES"

Hello Mike
"YES"!
May get it before our coffee conference.
You know how I have been enjoying the last weeks weather.
Have a great day.
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Old 01-28-2004, 09:17 AM
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A couple-two-three large dogs tucked

under the hood work wonders...replace as necessary. You can substitute cats on an 8-1 ratio if dogs not available...in fact, I'd prefer it if you did.

Remove before cranking starter.
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We went through a number of cats on the farm from just that. They would crawl into the engine compartment to get warm and then we'd start the car/truck up later and find a suprise!
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Old 01-30-2004, 12:51 PM
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Gasp, the price!

Hello Everyone
I just got the Espar price $995.00 USD.

Have a great day.

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Webasto was the cat's meow for my last truck. They make a smaller version for cars - seems to be popular in northern Europe. The propane jobs were popular around here for the pickups - died out because of the maintenance headaches and the synthetic oils. Could always go back to the future - a pan of charcoal works wonders in an emergency.
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What about these electric coolant heater/circulators? They are made by Zerostart, and seem like a very cheap alternative (plus, since they heat the coolant, you would have heat immediately in the car!). Just like the Webasto, but electric instead of diesel fired.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-2473/c-10101

For 36$ for the 1000watt unit and 11$ for a 'mercedes adapter' it is still cheaper than a regular block heater, and could potentially be more effective... Might also be handy for WVO folks who use coolant to heat the fuel, since this heater would heat that fuel up too. It would be nice to just fire the engine up and switch to WVO immediately..

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Old 11-10-2004, 08:47 AM
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What about these electric coolant heater/circulators? They are made by Zerostart, and seem like a very cheap alternative (plus, since they heat the coolant, you would have heat immediately in the car!). Just like the Webasto, but electric instead of diesel fired.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-2473/c-10101

For 36$ for the 1000watt unit and 11$ for a 'mercedes adapter' it is still cheaper than a regular block heater, and could potentially be more effective... Might also be handy for WVO folks who use coolant to heat the fuel, since this heater would heat that fuel up too. It would be nice to just fire the engine up and switch to WVO immediately..

Thoughts?

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I paid $10.49 + shipping on my block heater and it was a new one....on ebay, but good luck finding another at that price.
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What about these electric coolant heater/circulators? They are made by Zerostart, and seem like a very cheap alternative (plus, since they heat the coolant, you would have heat immediately in the car!). Just like the Webasto, but electric instead of diesel fired.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/ProductDisplay/s-10101/p-2473/c-10101

For 36$ for the 1000watt unit and 11$ for a 'mercedes adapter' it is still cheaper than a regular block heater, and could potentially be more effective... Might also be handy for WVO folks who use coolant to heat the fuel, since this heater would heat that fuel up too. It would be nice to just fire the engine up and switch to WVO immediately..

Thoughts?

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sam
I have a the Zerostart on the Jetta and it really works great, instant heat at startup in zero weather.
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