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Old 07-16-2002, 03:48 AM
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Exclamation Help with 190E 2.6 engine upgrade...

I want to upgrade a '92 190E 2.6 to make it faster. I want to drop a 300CE engine into it but I'm having trouble finding one to even begin with the process. I was wondering if any one knew where I could get a 300CE engine and what irt would cost me.

Also, if I end up not doing the 300CE engine thing, what would make my 2.6 much much faster besides NOS. I was maybe thinking of turbo charging it ir maybe super charging it. But I also don't know where to get these.

Do you have any suggestions on as to what I should do to make it much much faster than it is (engine wise)? Maybe with in the power of 250hp +

Tell me what you think!

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Old 07-16-2002, 11:56 AM
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Rolex, drop me a line ! I know someone who has done this conversion. benz69247@lycos.com
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Old 07-16-2002, 12:52 PM
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The 300CE and 300SL engines are the ones you want to use. a 2.3-16v 5-speed manual tranny and friveline parts are also prime candidates since the stock 2.6 tranny is very small.

Trust me I had everything lines up, a 300SL engine for $2500, just rebuilt. Normally they go for about $4-5 sicne they are rare, 24v, and 3.0 using the KEH with a higer 6700 rpm then the 300CEs 6400.

The transmission Mike Skees used on his conversion was a tranny form a 300E 5-speed manual. he had his enlarged to a 3.2 pushing about 250hp.

In the Maryland area: Mike, Rick from RC-Imports, and Potomac German Auto, as well as Dr. CArlos Piad who stuffed a C36 in his 190E 2.3-16v, are very well renound.

Then you have MBDoc and Benzmac down south a little further.

Expect to spend as much in labor as the engine.

Which is why I stopped doing it, mid way of purchasing the entire driveline. If I find a steal price on the 300SL engine, I might continue.
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Old 07-17-2002, 02:40 AM
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Hey, thanks for the quick replies. I understand what you are all saying, it is some good advice might I add.

So the 300SL engines pack a bigger punch in them than the 300CE engine, also the rev limiter on the 300SL is greater than a 300CEs. I will look into this, however...... I do feel the the 2.3 16V engine is also hard to find. Not only that, there are much much more eletrical little gadgets that would make the swap a little more difficult (disconnecting, reconecting, configuring, so I hear).

Do the 300SL engine have the same bolt patterns as a 2.6?

I have another idea too....... ;-)

My friend tells me about this Euro cylinder head that increases a 2.6 to over 100hp, I don't know if that is true, but it is definately some thing to look into. With that I would have to replace"

-Timing chain
-Chain tensioner
-Chain guide

I'd also have to get (most likely) brand new gaskets for the upper body of the engine.

I think I might wanna stick with the 2.6 engine then fix the engine up so it has no problems for now. Then I will put a turbo charge on it with a custom exhaust. Also, I MIGHT bore it out to 3.2, but we'll see. how does that plan sound? I asume it will be around 300hp+ with this just these things.... Any other suggestions that? I really appreciate this help.

Oh yeah, one more thinkg, I'm not th richest man on the planet, lol, so I can't afford a lot of modifications. I'm trying to see what I can do for as little cost as I can (little cost? Yeah right). Again I thank you for your help!!

Sean
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Old 07-17-2002, 09:39 AM
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There is no head that is going to net you 100 hp, maybe 20 max if its polished/ported with a high performance cam.

As for stroking the motor, your going to be looking anywhere between 2500 and 5000 to do that. It depends upon if you purchase a stroker kit or make your own crank. Its not cheap.
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Old 07-17-2002, 10:52 AM
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If you get another engine...

What about the engine you have now. Wouldn't that be worth something that would offset the cost?
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Old 07-17-2002, 07:41 PM
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Oh yeah, by the way.....

Is there some one who wants to buy a 2001 Rolex Submariner model "Pxxx xxx". I recieves it for a birthday gift from my uncle last year in November when I thought I was a high roller. Then I soon found out that I would need to have the whole works to be a high roller. So I need to get rid of it so I can put the money into the car.

Comes with original double box set, Rolex translator booklet, Rolex Submariner booklet, Rolex Date-Just booklet, red holographic Rolex chronometer hang tag, green Swimpruf hang tag, Rolex calendar, Submariner anchor, Rolex polishing cloth, green Rolex card holder, 3 extra links, Rolex pillow with matching wrap, and of course..... The watch.

Thanks, I appriciate it. Pictures are aviliable for serious buyers. It is worth over $3,200 - but for you $1,800!! (no one wants a watch for $3,200)


If you want it or some one you know might want it, go ahead and e-mail me: cky2ksk8rguy@aol.com
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