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Old 05-26-2005, 11:08 PM
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Water pump leak 1998 ML320

Hi all, Help me identify the source of the leak, please.

There is some brownish liquid dripping down the lower radiator hose where it connects to the water pump. The stuff is water soluble and smells sort of fishy or rusty. Since there is not much room to peep and I know its not leaking from the hose connection. Is it possible that the water pump cracked? I am still puzzled with the brown color, seems like rusty water/coolant. the coolant inside the expansion tank is clear so I don't think the rust is from inside. Any thoughts? The ML in question is a 98 with 66k miles on it, water pump is original.

Attached pictures: first one as seen when look up from the bottom of truck to water pump pulley.
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Old 05-27-2005, 06:51 AM
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Was there any residue that looked white and kind or powdery? That could be from coolant. Has the coolant every been changed?

Would you by chance have a larger picture that shows more of the area adjacent to the area of the leak?
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Old 05-27-2005, 09:50 AM
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The coolant was changed less than 2 years ago. No white residue yet since it started 2 days ago and I wiped clean the floor and the engine hose area. I am very positive it is coolant since the fluid feels somewhat slimy and water soluble. The brown color is most likely rust (perhaps from the water pump pulley, not sure though). I try to slip my finger behind the water pump pulley and there is a puddle there. I am thinking the leak is through the shaft that connects the pulley to the pump. I was going to replace the pump next year, but it looks like I may have to do it next week. I will try to post a bigger picture tonight.
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Old 05-27-2005, 10:27 AM
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The water pump has a weep hole under there somewhere. I wonder if it could be leaking for there. The weep hole looks like a hose or something like that goes over it, so I don't think you will just see the little hole. It does seem odd that their would be much in the way of rust, since most everything is aluminum, or so I thought.
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Old 05-27-2005, 11:24 AM
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Ron,
I just stopped by the dealer parts counter, the parts guy told me that when the water pump is starting to go bad, the coolant will ooz out of the weep hole. Then it will just drop dead any time. It's funny that the water pump was making some loud chirping noise every now and then in the last 2 months while the engine is running. Perhaps that's the tell tale sign of failing. I still don't know what the brown stuff is or where it might come from. Will post more info when I get to replace it.

On a separate note, would the tires wear out unevenly (more the outer edge) if the shocks/spring is weak? My rear tires are wearing out quicker on the outside then inside (an alignment was done 5000miles ago).
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Old 05-27-2005, 03:33 PM
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water pump was making some loud chirping noise
Make sure it's not the belt tensioner making that noise. My tensioner failed leaving me stranded, although mine never made any noise before it failed.

I don't know the answer for sure on your tire wear problem, although I would not think the shocks are the problem, especially with your low mileage. Could it be the brand or tires you're using, seems like an aligment issue. Maybe someone else who had this problem and offer advice. I know the 98's had different transfer cases but I wouldn't think that's the problem either.
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Old 06-02-2005, 11:48 PM
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Ron,
I just stopped by the dealer parts counter, the parts guy told me that when the water pump is starting to go bad, the coolant will ooz out of the weep hole. Then it will just drop dead any time. It's funny that the water pump was making some loud chirping noise every now and then in the last 2 months while the engine is running. Perhaps that's the tell tale sign of failing. I still don't know what the brown stuff is or where it might come from. Will post more info when I get to replace it.
I rechecked the expansion tank and something didn't look right, the tank looks darker and darker every day or it seems. So I took a big siphon and stirred up the tank a bit and sucked out a portion of the cooling and it is turbid, containing some fine particle looks like metal but not sure.

I checked with a car buff at work and he said that the bearing may be shot due to a bad/aging seal. I looked at the new water pump I have at hand and his reasoning sounds logical. This may explain why the leak is brown in color, might have been the rusty bearings.

Unfortunately, I cannot replace it yet since I am still waiting for a counter holder and the skinny wrench to remove the fan clutch. Anyone know where I can borrow those tools?
Question for Gilly, would those stuff hurt the engine? How do I completely flush them out?
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:26 AM
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I have the same problem with the rear tires, wearing out quicker on the outside than the inside . At 52K I've got to show the tech at the dealer before the new tires were installed so they are aware of the problem before they do the alignment with the new tires. I thought then the problem was resolved.

Well, now at 89K miles I have the exact same problem when I am ready to get new tires again. I have been using all along the General Grabbers.

If there is some light, it will be appreciated. I am getting new tires in the next 2 to 4 weeks.

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Rene
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