None of which proves a thing about W.

Let me ask you guys, how many of you are smart enough to rally the support to become president?

Not me. When it comes to politics, no one operates at a higher level than W. He definitely has me beat there. On the other hand, I am able to put together as many as two coherent sentences of original thought without help from Karl.

My guess, and that's all it is, is that W is of average intelligence. The problem is that his occupation calls for higher than average intelligence, so he often looks like a knucklehead.

Mediocre intellectual ability is probably the least of W's problems. The real reasons he has failed at so many things are his arrogance, his lack of curiosity, and his lack of a moral compass.

I got a Bushism of the Day calendar for Christmas '03. Here is the Bushism for December 3:

"One of the interesting initiatives we've taken in Washington, D.C., is we've got these vampire-busting devices. A vampire is a - cell deal you can plug in the wall to charge your cell phone." Denver; August 14, 2001.

dculkin
I believe you are guilty of some wishful thinking. re: Bush being only of average intelligence. I remember near the end of the recent campaign that some reporter asked Kerry to comment on the fact that Bush had higher intelligence scores on his military testing than did the--oh, so smart---John Kerry. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that people with whom you agree are smart, while with whom you disagree are stupid.
As to his being articulate--well thats a bit different than intelligence. I hate to listen to him because he is not so articulate. People I know who were born and raised in Texas, say thats just the way they talk. I don't know.

Do you really HAVE to be smart to become president? I think you need to be motivated, very wealthy and be well connected or come from a well connected family. It takes some talent and charm to network and make connections if your family didn't do it for you but I don't think you need to be a genius. I think, like many things in life, with motivation and money you can get a lot of things done and succeed even if you are not the smartest and the brightest or even close.

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got us into Iraq quagmire @ 56
failed to catch bin laden
mismanaged economy
responsible for greatest drop in the value of the dollar in history

I don't think I have fallen into that trap with respect to W. There are plenty of people with whom I disagree who are clearly not stupid. Antonin Scalia, for example. I don't think W is dumb because he disagrees with me, I just see a lot of evidence that he is dumb.

No doubt about it.

"The past is over"
"The problem in Iraq is that it was a catastrophic success"

I will guarantee you the plan has always been #3. #2, what you call "The Bush Plan" is nothing more than cover story for this. But it will never work. There are a billion Muslims on this planet. Just that fact alone will assure a never ending supply of terrorists, jihadists, Baathists and suicide bombers endlessly being sucked into the sewer drain of Iraq, and an endless supply of hatred and anti-American propaganda being exported out to the rest of the world, and an endless supply of dead and wounded being exported back to America. This thing is now forever imprinted in the world's mind as act of criminal aggression on our part, and we will forever be the bad guys. It has ruined our image in the world, and this nazi, fascist approach to solving our problems will cost us dearly. It is a mistake of massive proportions.

one request. Instead of blaming it on bush, blame it on his cabinet. He did not know there were not wmd's over there. He was misinformed. He has not denied that they havnt found any wmd's.

edit* i hope u dont thinkl he is still an alcoholic. Watch "Journeys with george"

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Charlotte

Kerry had more money and better connections BUT

Bush is to blame, as he has the power to stop or begin most anything his cabinet wants. That is why it is HIS cabinet. Now we all know that Bush is a puppet for the republicans. So seeing that he is the co-conspirator figure head of a corrupt and greedy gov't why not rag on him. Plus he is such an easy target for ridicule. The true power underneath him are just mean, greedy, old men with much better than average intelligence, that justify their selfish means by thinking they deserve whatever they get because the public is too stupid to realize the truth. Unfortunately they appear to be right. The real victim in all of this is the majority of the population.

Now cut the crap about me being a Clinton supporter. I never was. But the level of corruption (which was always present) has achieved a scary new plateau unknown to me in my brief 34 years. And only about half of the population are interested enough about this to research it. Sad.

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Didn't mean to imply a thing about the current guy. Meant to imply all sorts of insults about folks who diss'd ol' Ronnie as a mental dwarf and such.

It amuses me that folks take such wonderful pleasure in talking-up Mr Bush's intellectual shortcomings. I cannot imagine that making me feel any better about losing a contest. I mean, if I lose at something, I prefer to believe my opponent is the planetary best and got lucky.

"Hey everybody, I lost the election to a dumbass. Not only that, the people who did vote for him are all religious zealots, bigots, stupid, or Nazis."

No wonder ya lost. Pass me the bong when you're done. I want some a' dat $hit, too.

not true at all. Bush's campaign raised more money this campaign than any previous presidential campaign. Hes the one that adapted the fastest to mccain feingold

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Charlotte

shane i absolutely agree with your statement about the corruption. it just seems like its becoming more apparent these days. What it comes down to is money. Whoever raises the most wins. Sad it works this way but thats what it has come to. Seems like candidates are appealing more to what the majority of the people want to hear as opposed to what they really beleive or think is right all because of political ads. Everything is done to get votes. I dont think its always been like that. I dont agree with bush with everything he stands for at all. Im pro choice, and im against a constitutional amendment that defines marriage between a man and woman (i dont agree with gay marriage but beleive it is the states right to decide). I just looked at wheere the country was, who was running, and decided bush would be the best man to keep our country running strong.

hows that coming from a high school senior

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Charlotte