Originally Posted by davidmash

There is a saying that it is better to be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt. You may want to take heed of that advise.

To my knowledge, there has never been an attempt such as what the Nazis did to remove an entire group of people from the face of the planet in such a violent and methodical way.

In nearly every century, someone has tried to exterminate the Jews.

As far as supporting Israel, do you honestly think the US is supporting them out of the goodness of their heart? There is a quid pro quo. They test the US weapons systems under live fire, real combat situations. They provide intelligence on all the powers in that area. Who do you think took out the Iraqi nuclear power plant in 1981? They are the only democratic country in the area. The US gets far more out of their support for Israel than for the support provided to Saudi Arabia (home of the 9/11 terrorists) Kuwait … etc.

We hear about the genocide that is occurring in Africa but US chooses to do nothing because they have nothing to offer. No precious metals, no oil, strategic bases, so we let them die.

Racism is alive and well in the US. When Bush Jr. played the race card to get John McCain punted out of the primaries in 2000 no one even flinched. His campaign circulated flyers in S. Carolina (I believe) implying that McCain had a “Negro” (a vulgar term in the way that it was used) baby. The facts were that the child was adopted after they brought the child to the US for medical treatment. Not that it should have mattered how the child came to live with the McCains.

My guess is that you are white male. You probably have never had a door slammed in your face because of your skin color. Never been called a “Christ killer” because of your religious beliefs. Never been paid less for the same work just because you can take a leak standing up.

Just because not all of injustices in the world are noted by society does not mean that any of them should ever be forgotten.

And yes, I am a Jew and my family are survivors of the Nazi concentration camps, including Auschwitz.

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor

Common sense would dictate we back those who back democricy, not attack them.

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor

If kids don't know about the Holocaust ist becasue the teachers won't teach it....

Originally Posted by shane

Jake, I can't even voice an opinion on the USA being too pro Israel in policy without immediately getting labled an antisemitic. I can't say anything against Bush without being labeled a raging left winged liberal. Of which I am neither in reality.
Now if we can please put down the blinders and take a look around at more than one point of view you will see that being blatantly biased toward Israel is one of the major causes for 9-11. Now I am all for supporting Israel more than any non-democratic form of gov't. in the middle east, yes I am in fact. This is just good for our way of life; however, we need to show some resemblance of balance. We have not done this in decades, much to the angst of the middle eastern neighbors of Israel with their different religious affiliations.
But we have and continue to go too far pro-Israel. It enrages the muslims. Why should the USA suffer because of Israel's inability to get along with its neighbors? Why should we lose all the lives that we did because of this bias on 9-11? I would say the same thing if Israeli's were catholic, protestant, or aetheist. Just because they have been tragically attacked in the last century does not give them the right to play the role of the righteous victim forever more. Playing the victim is always prosperous, just ask any southerner or watch the movie Gone With The Wind. We shoud do things in the future to prevent victims. The war in Iraq would be a great place to start for example.

Originally Posted by KirkVining

The Turks attempted the same thing against the Armenians in the early 20th Century. The Serbians were thwarted in their attempt to kill millions of muslims. In Rwanda, millions died in a genocide. Stalin targeted and exterminated ethnic groups as ruthlessly as Hitler did, with as many victims.

Originally Posted by davidmash

But not with the organization and planning that the Nazi’s did.

Please do not get me wrong. There are plenty of genocides that have occurred in our history but none as focused as that of the Nazis to get rid of anyone who was non-arian. The Nazi’s rounded up, shipped off, built ghettos, factories, labor camps, death camps and an entire infrastructure for the sole purpose of cleansing the German race of all impurities.

Originally Posted by KirkVining

The Turks attempted the same thing against the Armenians in the early 20th Century. The Serbians were thwarted in their attempt to kill millions of muslims. In Rwanda, millions died in a genocide. Stalin targeted and exterminated ethnic groups as ruthlessly as Hitler did, with as many victims.

Originally Posted by MTI

Hence the real meaning and importance of "rememberance" so that generations that follow will know, just as the Passover seder commits the rememberance of Exodus. We deride the way the Japanese and Germans teach WWII history, the way North Koreans educate their children about the 1950's . . . when did modern America most come to terms with slavery . . .