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View Poll Results: What do you think the USA's top priority should be.
Prevent a terrorist attack inside the US. 10 28.57%
Improve the economy 11 31.43%
Finish the War in Iraq 2 5.71%
Social issues ie: abortion rights/ban ect. Health care. 4 11.43%
Secure the borders. 8 22.86%
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Old 06-24-2005, 06:15 PM
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She works three jobs..............he works 1/2 a job. Seems equitable to me.
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Border protection should be of top priority....

I also believe all law enforcement should help OJ find the real killer!

computerized guardhouses spaced every 50 miles or so along the border with a laser beam connecting it to the next one. Anyone tried to cross......zzzzzap!

Kinda like a bug zapper.

Sorry MedMech, it;'s friday and I haven't had a drink yet.
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Old 06-25-2005, 09:26 AM
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I'm out of touch, obviously. In my patch of swamp the economy is sizzling. Prcie of fuel goes up and things here hum.

BTW, many people want to increase the fed tax on fuel to slow consumption. I don't recall how much/gallon they proposed, but it looks like supply and demand are working the same magic formula proposed for gov.

Except gov ain't squandering it on a new project in Congressman Domfekker's district.
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Old 06-26-2005, 02:37 AM
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I'm posting this poll, it doesn't need to get political you can click and talk or click and shut up.
I go for Border Patrol. we have "Broken Borders" here any way you cut it! In Miami the Smugglers roll in a practically a daily Basis with their cargo from Cuba. BTW, these mew arrivals are not Political Refugees, they are economic. We cannot solve the World's problems.Close the Door.Or lose our standard of Living.The reason the 9/11 Terrorist lived and trained here(s.fl.) is because they saw the Airport Security as very weak, which it is. We have had many US Immigration Officers and Supervisors in the recent past(even after 9/11) on the "take" taking $$$$$ from immigrants who never should be have been here but in some cases INS(US) Officers traveled to Colombia and sold bogus visas for $4K-$&k per visa and then had them pass thru their Lines at MIA for the Visa Stamp. Last one caught was a Colombian/American and her Husband who worked at the US Embassy in Mexico CIty(miami was their home area) she and her Husband sold close $430,000 worth of Visas to Terrorist members of the Colombian Farc and they passed thru Mexico enroute to the USA. SHe is in Jail now with the husband but what happened to all those Farc Terrorists who already are here, many in the Miami area they say. This was around 6 months ago. The most recent Miami Incident involved Cuban Terrorist Luis Pasoda Carriles who was involved in the blowing up of the Cubana Airliner where innocent kids and coaches were blown up-all were killed. They had nothing to do with Politics. Fidel Castro wasn't on the Plane. What did it solve, blowing up this plane with all the innocent people onboard?? Well, this same Carriles entered the US Illegally thru Mexico, he was on the Miami streets Very Visible for two months. Kids saw him in the Miami malls. Law Enforcement knew where this yahoo was--Our Federal(cia,fbi, customs, ins) security did NOTHING, our State(fdle)and city police knew where he was at--they did NOTHING. Finally a local TV Station was given a TV interview with him(this was how emboldened he became)and he told how he Thumbed his Nose at US immigration in the TV Interview and fooled security(which he did) AT this point,. The Authorities were shamed into picking him up.Sad thing, this was Jeb Bush's own Neighborhood--Literally and he did NOTHING either to shackle this bad actor. Why was allowed to roam--he was supported by a group here in Miami that was on the "Right" side of Politics. He is now detained at El Paso, Texas by Immigration as they decide his case. And people wonder why other countries laugh at us? Prime example right here. Pardon the rant, this subject, loose security and illegals fires me up!
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I tried to edit the options so you could vote for more than one, I should have had secure borders with prevent a terrorist attack. They pretty much go hand in hand, but I look at it a little differently.

If all would be terrorist are dead everywhere we don't have to worry about the borders too much.
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Carl Rove is a roving, raving idiot.

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Carl Rove is a roving, raving idiot.

Attempting to understand the psychology of the enemy is not a sign of weakness -- it is an important part of any real and productive victory.
The left proves Rove correct every day.................look at what your lefty supreme court judges recently did....
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The most recent Miami Incident involved Cuban Terrorist Luis Pasoda Carriles who was involved in the blowing up of the Cubana Airliner where innocent kids and coaches were blown up-all were killed. They had nothing to do with Politics. Fidel Castro wasn't on the Plane. What did it solve, blowing up this plane with all the innocent people onboard??

Why was allowed to roam--he was supported by a group here in Miami that was on the "Right" side of Politics. He is now detained at El Paso, Texas by Immigration as they decide his case. And people wonder why other countries laugh at us? Prime example right here. Pardon the rant, this subject, loose security and illegals fires me up!
I agree, that was some bogus Bull****.

This will sound woo - woo, please bear with me. We need to become way better at efficiency in energy and resource usage. This is econ 101. Businesses that get the most benefit out of their resources are businesses that thrive at the expense of businesses that are wasteful/inefficient.

Toyota is preparing for a years long a$$ whupping of GM & Ford and it didn't have to be that way. Oil prices ain't gwine to be going down. Fighting over it in the middle east, S. America, and Africa is likely to increase.

Part of the reason we have so much rampant illegal immigration is that we have wealth just lying around, waiting to be picked up by people who have had experience at getting by with way less. Indian immigrants are making good livings at running small hotel/motels and running taxi companies. They've become more adept at utilizing resources than us fat and lazy gringos (present company excluded, of course ).


AND, IMHO, our kids are getting fat because they don't do any or at least enough work. I don't want to see us become a top-heavy dottering, nouveau Roman Empire but it's looking that way.
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I agree, that was some bogus Bull****.

This will sound woo - woo, please bear with me. We need to become way better at efficiency in energy and resource usage. This is econ 101. Businesses that get the most benefit out of their resources are businesses that thrive at the expense of businesses that are wasteful/inefficient.

Toyota is preparing for a years long a$$ whupping of GM & Ford and it didn't have to be that way. Oil prices ain't gwine to be going down. Fighting over it in the middle east, S. America, and Africa is likely to increase.

Part of the reason we have so much rampant illegal immigration is that we have wealth just lying around, waiting to be picked up by people who have had experience at getting by with way less. Indian immigrants are making good livings at running small hotel/motels and running taxi companies. They've become more adept at utilizing resources than us fat and lazy gringos (present company excluded, of course
AND, IMHO, our kids are getting fat because they don't do any or at least enough work. I don't want to see us become a top-heavy dottering, nouveau Roman Empire but it's looking that way.


You have that right in American Youth of Today(for the most part are spoiled) by their Parents.I mean I see yhese 16-17 tr old kids tooling around in New Beemers and Hondas all souped and decked out -valued at $25,000 Who is paying for it? The Parents spoiling the Kids, they are gettibg Soft way to soon in life.I really beleive that "Our best Times" have sadly passed and China and India are the Rising stars. We have only ourselves to Blame . I don't see it as Liberal/conservative issue, our downfall; plenty of blame to go around on both political sides. You only have to look at the Close paralells between the Downfall of Roman Empire and the USA of today and see the close resemblence, for example-1) a national money being more and more worthless every passing day(precipitated by our going off the Gold Standard(bretton woods accord) in 1971. Now we have all this lousy credit getting people in trouble-record credit card debt. 2) Our Military stretched WAY too thin--as it is now without the draft-we are in Deep DooDoo if we have an outbreak in N.Korea while in Iraq. Where's trhe extra troops? Recruiters have not met Goals since Jan. this year--Our present soldiers are exhausted for back to back tours of duty. They say no Draft but watch and see=its COMING-maybe by a different name but its around the corner. There are other similarities if a person reads the "The Rise& Fall of the Empire(roman)

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In the latter years of Rome, citizens no longer signed-up for the Army. It was an army composed of foreigners with no allegience to Rome other than lip service. They had some allegience to their commanders who were usually men from powerful Roman political families dependent on subordinates. There was no incentive for soldiers to show personal initiative. Longevity determined noncom rank.

We do have a large number of foreigners in the military. But they are pretty good soldiers eager to gain citizenship (an avenue not available to Rome's mercenary armies).

In the American military the officers are professional, not political appointees.

Loyalty in American the army is to the smallest unit (your buddy) and up from there. Personal initiative is encouraged though longevity is still a part of rank and pay. Which, by the way, Rumsfeld is studying for change downplaying base pay and increasing the role of incentive pay. Infantry finally gets its due. That will be interesting.
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Which, by the way, Rumsfeld is studying for change downplaying base pay and increasing the role of incentive pay. Infantry finally gets its due. That will be interesting.
Where's this stuff B? It's a need to see it thing for me, Rumsfeld doing something for the troops? nahhhhhh
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:49 AM
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Where's this stuff B? It's a need to see it thing for me, Rumsfeld doing something for the troops? nahhhhhh

Saw it on C-SPAN. Came from the CNO in a presentation to some think-tank.

He said the career paradigm for WWII and the Cold War doesn't fit the realities of today's job market in which people change jobs and may have several careers in a lifetime. Said that 2/3 of his budget was spent on human resources in some fashion and that increasing efficiency had probably reached the max return and now they needed to change the whole paradigm, which he said is do-able. That floored me. He was talking specifically about the USN but I assume Rumsfeld wants the same thinking for every branch.

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