I %^^$$### Windoze.

I've been on my mac binge do my "stable" windows box has been hibernating with its super nice water cooled motherboard, it runs the bare essentials and my widoze only programs. I need to use one of those programs and its locked up, and like a good windoze user I attempt to reboot.......but locked up so I unplug it and restart I get to the windoze screen and it locks up. I restart in safe mode and start my handy work and it locks up.

Is this out the ordinary? no. Is this a cheap computer? no Is this running anything other than dreamweaver or some palm utilities....no.


I think the POS was lonely and self destructed when it sensed a mac on the network. It was as stable as a winsdoze computer goes and now its another 2 hours to find the problem, I get at least 2 calls a day from people with windoze problems and from this day out I'm telling em this ......learn Linux, FreeBSD or bite the Apple.


This thread was not aimed at a certain forum member that called me today, I came home after that call to get a spreadsheet and I'm f*&*^& fuuuwuwed because of this POS class action deserving pos glorified poop so called operating system. The new windoze should be called longpoop if everyone went mac outsourcing would be the last thing IT would be worrying about.


now back to Katrina.

[MTI]

I wonder how many Apple OS users have ever seen this screen:

Originally Posted by MTI

I wonder how many Apple OS users have ever seen this screen:

I've never seen that one, how often does it occur? the only lock up I've ever had was guess........IE for MAC.

[A264172]

Originally Posted by MTI

I wonder how many Apple OS users have ever seen this screen:
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Only time I've seen it and it's cousins was in relation to some fire wire exts. for an external HD and that was on OS 9.x (any Mac stuff I do is on wifes machine...) never had any problems with 10.x yet...

[Lebenz]

While scented betrayal has become the motto of every large corporation, are you sure the problem is windoze and not a hardware failure? I could tell you many stories of nightmarish problems occurring along the lines you describe from out of nowhere. The most recent was due to a USB device (canon printer) that caused what you’re describing. Had a similar case that was caused by a USB keyboard, others due to fire wire cable, shorted network cable

I've recently started living with Macs and they show no purity of function either....

Remember back in the 80s when the PC first became a consumer object of desire? There were perceptions of vast new discoveries and empowerment to be had by all. It was if the discovery that the world was round that created possibilities of almost infinite capability? Computers were big steel boxes, and they had a nice humm and were the very symbol of high tech. Since then no matter where you go, it’s broken this and flaky that. It's as if the world has become flat once again.

I fixed it using system restore the MS error said it need update 900.3.2.x.e.r.d or something it got it and its good to go. It's just par for the course for win to have a somesort of memory fault or database error do to an update that didn't work another update.

another beef i have with win is the boxes seem to fall of the network out of the clear blue sky. I have a freebsd box that is my server that has been running for months without any problems.

[Zeus]

PCs are just like any other mechanical device - they break down if they're not used properly and maintained constantly. My home PC (running XP) is rock solid - however it gets daily use and constant attention. I generally use two HDD's and I wipe the OS annually and reload. I think of it as an oil change of sorts. XP has been very stable and I run plenty of apps and games, never had an issue with XP. Plenty of issues with vid card drivers, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.

I've had issues with OS X on my G4. Finder locks up occasionally and has to be forced to quit. Also - there is an issue with copying files into a new folder and that folder not showing the new files once they've been copied. Again, a forced quit is usually necessary to see the files, sometimes a reboot. The latter is a known OS X issue, not sure about the former. Also - I use Quark XPress on my G4 and Quark and OS X aren't the best of friends due to the way OS X handles fonts. I've got Quark 6.x on my G4 but most of the print shops and newspapers I deal with are still using OS 9.x and Quark 5.x or lower, partially due to said reason. It's a pain in the a$$. Recently, I've preferred working with my PC.

However, on the whole, I'd agree that Macs are probably a better overall computer. They certainly look better than most PCs anyway.

[Lebenz]

Originally Posted by MedMech

I fixed it using system restore the MS error said it need update 900.3.2.x.e.r.d or something it got it and its good to go. It's just par for the course for win to have a somesort of memory fault or database error do to an update that didn't work another update.

another beef i have with win is the boxes seem to fall of the network out of the clear blue sky. I have a freebsd box that is my server that has been running for months without any problems.

XP does have a lot of memory failures related to read errors. I've only seen recurrent network drop offs due to, and get this, the influence of some old MS Dos based applications. Not that DOS applications cause the drop off it per sey, as historically this was never a problem. Most DOS apps don't even work with anything other than the application layer, so are mostly unaware that they are running on a network. Even DOS based multi user apps perform file and record locking and the design hasn’t changed a whole lot. But it is a curious and I cant help but think it’s probably a planned "coincidence."

Another typical problem with network drives working and then not working is related to removable media. Often this kind of media will appear as drive e: or whatever but when removed and later replaced will come back as drive g or again, whatever. The end result is that if a physical drive grabs a drive letter used by a network connection, the network connection will fail. But it will appear to be okay when you look at it with Explorer. Funny that Windows can’t comprehend this distinction. Funnier still that Windoze won’t recognize removable media by it’s signature and recall previous settings.

So in short, yes, xp is a flake fest

[coldwar]

I am deinately no PC expert, so I can't chime in here with much. However, my corporate issue laptop has been my daily workhorse for over 3 years, and I'm amazed at it's stability in spite of the pounding it gets- often with 8 or more applications running at once including stuff served from the Company Mainframe and Midrange, working from home over a non-MS VPN. And it's just a humble Compaq P-III 1.2 GHZ running XP SP-1 with 256 Meg RAM. There are also at least 3 security services running which I cannot turn off (Admin only). Although I find this rig very slow and overladen, it has only crashed once in 3 years, and that was a HD failure.

Could it be that WinXP is like a Diesel- it holds up better with extreme use?

Nahhh- probably not. My Company's IT Development shop just implemented an "Advanced PC" business case for themselves, in which they dumped Windows in favour of Red Hat- the main reason being that Windows Server does not hold up well in their production environment.

Seemingly, each of these systems- WinNT/XP, UNIX, Linux and Apple have their rightful place. For home use, it's a choice between WIN and MAC. For general office, planning, communication and customer service work like I do, I would dare say that Windows is the only choice. Apple doesn't have the Apps for this and Linux has too much of a learning curve.

Dave

Just a day or so ago, I posted here issues I've been having with my windows XP. I spent most all of yesterday working to resolve problems that included a recently and dramatically slowed PC, along with error reports, download failures, Microsoft up-date failure etc.

I was able to update Spy-bot to 1.4 and ran that, also ran my Stop-Sign virus/spy ware, and Windows Registry Cleaner, still no change, so I logged into Lockergnome's Problem Solver, and found one small issue did have to do with a recent re-installation of a wireless keyboard "MKBDATA.DAT file not found, but solved this issue by reinstalling the program. But the biggest change came when I downloaded a trial virus scanner called TROJANHUNTER which claims to go well beyond any other scanner finding open ports, trojan horses etc. They give you a 30 free trial, that actually is free and will scan and find issues then remove all of them.

After running a full scan last night, it found numerous Trojans and several back door, or open ports, and corrected them all. Neither Spy-Bot or Stop-Sign, never found these problems. As a result, today my PC has never run as fast! It opens and closes faster than ever before! Like a new lease on life!

Now I'm tempted to go buy a 512 mb card for it!

[iwrock]

Busybenz, what type of processor do you have? Some forum members here may have some extra memory laying around.(like me) I think have an extra stick or 2 of 128mb pc-133 from my old computer that I am not using at the current time. It is yours if it is compatible with your computer.

Originally Posted by justinwrock

Busybenz, what type of processor do you have? Some forum members here may have some extra memory laying around.(like me) I think have an extra stick or 2 of 128mb pc-133 from my old computer that I am not using at the current time. It is yours if it is compatible with your computer.

I did a Google check on my Gateway G6-333c for memory requirements and found that only a specific memory stick will work for my PC. I believe there is installed two 64mb sticks that equal together 128mb. It says that I can add two 128's to get 256. Another site I looked at, said there were three slots and I could add three 128's for a total of 384MB. No 512 sticks are available for this PC.

With exception to Google Earth, a satellite photographic imagery of earth, I am OK with my current 128mb, but can still access Google Earth, but it takes for ever to download imagery. I've already played with Google Earth on my girlfriends 256mb PC and the novelty has worn off........Soooo I guess I'll stick with what I've got for now....Thanks for the offer anyway......Busy