Unless you get a cheap shotgun and saw off the barrel, how do you think it won't be as unwieldy as a pistol?

They can't? I always thought that they would be there instantly if not before the crime. Wishing him away is also not an option? WTF sort of world is this?

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Good idea but dogs like that aren't something you get at the store either. You are going to have to work hard to train them and keep training them. Kinda like owning a gun. You have to practice, practice and when you are done, practice some more.

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Akilm, if a heterosexual burglar sees you in your see through Victoria's Secret robe he'll run faster than a speeding bullet.

It's a unisex one. http://www2.victoriassecret.com/collection/?cgname=OSSLPRBEZZZ&cgnbr=OSSLPRBEZZZ&rfnbr=1098

And while we are at it, how do you know that? Personal experience from watching the burglar run from you?

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Maybe some people want to get burgled!

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True but its a blanket statement, if you read the posts here people think that simply aiming a shotgun down a hallway and pulling the trigger is a guaranteed hit, even though its a guaranteed miss if a person is not trained of confident with the weapon, 90% of those who think they can shoot couldn't stop a moving target if they tried with a touch of adrenaline. Those people are easy to spot with the bigger is better mentality.

Depends on who is doing what. If Briana Banks, Jenna Jameson or Tera Patrick wanted to burgle my house, I could be for it.

This is my rifle, this is my gun
This is for fight, this is for fun.

I might not call the cops if they would "service me" then.

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But that is my point. It takes training and not just simply ownership. People think the shotgun has some magical properties that guarantees a hit or that it has a heat seeking missile fired out with a Friend or Foe system so it shoots the bad guy or that he will be scared off by it.

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I have found that if they get past the gate, two (well-trained) German Dobermans and motion sensors/horns/lights outside and avoid getting shot by either me or my trigger happy wife, that the years I spent in Ninja school have served me well

O hell, BCT at fort knox all over again...




I vote for a tazer for personal defence. They make keychain ones (hold 2 superduper 9v size batterys, and capaciters)


I installed a brush guard on my tracker, and leave it at the end of the driveway facing OUT. My theory is that if someones gonna come down the driveway with a vehical, and they arent welcome, the 1/2" steel plate with sch 40 pipes bolted to the frame might re arrange enough sheet metal to disorient the driver.

That'd be enough time to get out and use my 24" breaker bar (with 19mm socket on the end, it's a "tire changer")

I think it'd displace some flesh and bones and disable a person.
I bought 3 of them, on clearance for like 5.88 at advance auto parts last year. One in the shop, one in the car, one in an undiscolsed location.



Anyways yeah, tazer, or saw the end off a cheap shotgun and get someone to load it with rocksalt rounds.
~Nate

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Layered defenses help reduce the threat at each level.

Proper fences, doors, lighting, dog(s), and firearms.

Dogs are a great defensive weapon that should(but not always) go on the offensive when the time comes. My latest dog has turned out to be one of the best all around dogs one could hope for. He is a Golden Retriever/Black German Shepard mix. I stay away from purebreeds and the traditional guard dog types because of the liability and homeowners insurance issues. Mine appears to be a lab but the Black German Shepard qualities in every sense are just under his lab like appearance. He is a mutt to all who ask.

Get the dog as a puppy, no later than 8 weeks, I prefer no later than 6 weeks. Training, socialization, and inclusion into all aspects of your life. The dog will become a member of your family(pack) and will respond accordingly when the time comes.

Take a look at the 32 H&R Mag. revolver for your wife. Hits almost as hard as a 38 but you get 6 shots in the small frame. Very low recoil. I purchased it for my girlfriend years ago and she was terrified of guns. After a few classes and plenty of practice she became very proficient. It saved her life!

When it comes to self-defense females can get away with actions that would land a male in the pokey. One firearm instructor friend of mine always told his female students that if the situation required pulling the weapon and you were in your home, empty it into the scumbag. Although laws may differ in your state, once they cross the line of actually entering your dwelling, there is no such thing as excessive force.

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The new Ruger LCP is nice. I am evaluating one now. I am not a big fan of Mouse guns but they almost always fill a void left when nothing else can be carried. And for a woman, in order to get her to conceal carry properly (with permit) it almost become necessary to think of one. They often want to carry in the purse or just have it around. Well...its either stolen with the purse or not in reach. I strongly recommend that they figure a concealed carry system that works for them. And so that sometimes dictates a small caliber like the .380 or .32. Which, contrary to popular myth, are quite effective at 8 or less yards where most self defense is going to take place. I know they are better than a sharp stick. And most of these pack about 7 rounds.

In the summer I sometimes resort to carrying a Seecamp LWS32 because my shorts and T shirt just will not conceal anything more. I have to switch to pocket rather than On Waist band so this fits. I prefer not to. But I am confident I can adapt up close an personal.

Guns are like shoes. You need more than one for every occasion. And sometimes there are compromises. So recommending a gun for the home vs one to conceal carry is impossible. The best Home handgun is going to probably be a .357 revolver. But thats not a good carry gun. I, personally carry a Glock 27 in .40 cal most of the time. And then go to the Seecamp if need be. But... in the drawer next to the bed is a .357 Revolver and a 870 Remington on the wall. The Revolver needs to get me to the shotgun. By the way... no kids in the house.

And of course, practice makes perfect. And carrying is a responsibility that is very serious. You will find you think differently and will think ahead about avoiding places and situations that might cause you to have to use it. I find this is a common reaction to responsible people that chose to carry for personal safety. Because the main goal is to be prepared but to never have to use it.

And a very important part of carry is the holster. It is a main safety device. I covers the trigger and it retains the weapon from falling out. The choice is very important and its a personal fit thing. You may have to try many method to get the one right for you. But you MUST carry in something for safety. Safety is the number one rule. You cannot simply slip a snubby in your pocket. Its dangerous.

I recommend a Concealed Carry and then personal defense course no matter what she decides... but... I would recommend concealed carry even in the home. You keep it safe and you always know where it is. And if its taken from you then you have lost... but you had a chance.

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...but in the movies that's how they ALL work....

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Screw it all. I'm going to watch Iron Man and see where he gets his suit from. Repulsors and unibeam will stop anyone.

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I know someone already mentioned layered security…and I agree 100%. Security starts with knowing your neighbors and your surroundings. I know all of my neighbors and have exchanged phone numbers and etc. We keep each other informed on what is going on in the neighborhood. The next layer is the exterior…Good lighting, manicured shrubs/bushes (nothing to really hide behind) locked doors and windows. Next layer is the dog…we have a German Shepherd. He is trained…not in shutzhund but trained none the less. He will not let anyone in the house or even close to us when we are outside unless I formally introduce him to the person. Even after introduction, he keeps a watchful eye on the stranger for sometime before he feels comfortable. The next layer is a “monitored” house alarm, which is layered in within itself. It has sound detection (detects the breaking of glass), motion detection, battery backup, cut phone line redundancy and etc. We have teenage children so we practice the functionality of the alarm on a regular basis. When the alarm company calls we have designated key words that will either let the monitoring company know everything is alright or if it is not alright. We all use the same key words incase someone is abducted or something and is questioned about the alarms codes. We train to give the Bad Guys the wrong info…but each of us give the Bad Guys the same wrong info. This is one that was not mentioned but I feel is extremely important….have a plan of action and practice them regularly. Make sure everyone knows what to do and where to go. In the event of an emergency, you will automatically fall back onto your plan and will be less likely to panic. The last layer of my protection plan is a firearm. This is and should always be a last resort. That being said, a firearm should never be more than an arms length away at all times…even when just hanging out at the house. I have multiple firearms as I have not found a firearm that is suitable in all situations. In addition to my primary carry weapon (I have a CHL and carry a .45 every time I leave the house) I have a small .380 pocket gun. I have this on my person 24/7 with the exception of sleeping and in the shower. It is small and light enough to stick in my pocket no matter what I am doing…watching TV or doing yard work…I have it with me. In regards to firearms…everyone in the household has gone to the range with me and trained in the safe use and functionality of each firearm I have in the house. You need to understand the lay out of your house and educate yourself in the tactical advantages you may have, for example, Identify choke points and control it when ever possible.

Plan, Practice, evaluate….and the most important thing in security is the grey matter between your ears!!!!

Hope this helps.