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Old 01-15-2009, 04:48 PM
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US Airways jet ditches into the Hudson River

Nobody killed (unless birds count), everyone got out of the plane safely, and it appears that the plane is in one piece. They can wring that sucker out and fly it tommorow, j/k.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/15/new.york.plane.crash/index.html
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:53 PM
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Yikes,

My late friend's wife is a flt attendant for USAir... I'll have to call her..
Glad everyone got out. Cold day for it.
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Old 01-15-2009, 04:55 PM
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Hooray for the pilot, I'll have a beer in his honor.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:21 PM
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Hooray for the pilot, I'll have a beer in his honor.
X2.

That's got to be a really, really bad feeling when both your engines drop offline and you only have a couple of hundred feet of altitude to work with. I'm not a pilot but I'm guessing you have to make a decision very quickly, you don't have a lot of choices, and you better make the right decision cause you ain't going to get a second chance.

Seems like the pilot did a great job, I'll have two beers in his honor.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:34 PM
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X2.

That's got to be a really, really bad feeling when both your engines drop offline and you only have a couple of hundred feet of altitude to work with. I'm not a pilot but I'm guessing you have to make a decision very quickly, you don't have a lot of choices, and you better make the right decision cause you ain't going to get a second chance.

Seems like the pilot did a great job, I'll have two beers in his honor.
X2

That’s what CRM is all about. (Cockpit Resource Management)

1. You run through the already set procedures for what you think is your current condition/scenario.

2. You both spit out what you think should be your next move.
(I let the right seat go first. If it sounds good, we go with it.)

3. You do it.

Both crew members work as a team. Not the captain barking out orders.

With such a short time between Quack, Bang and Skip - I’m betting the CVR will show CRM in action to the maximum level.
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Old 01-15-2009, 11:15 PM
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That’s what CRM is all about. (Cockpit Resource Management)

1. You run through the already set procedures for what you think is your current condition/scenario.

2. You both spit out what you think should be your next move.
(I let the right seat go first. If it sounds good, we go with it.)

3. You do it.

Both crew members work as a team. Not the captain barking out orders.

With such a short time between Quack, Bang and Skip - I’m betting the CVR will show CRM in action to the maximum level.
So true! In fact, they may not have had enough time to run all the check lists completely. I once had to return to SEA after what we suspected was an electrical fire just after take off. That check list was too long to get the airplane on the ground, so we improvised and overcame. You have to know your aircraft and this crew of both qualified pilots - not just THE PILOT as the news hounds refer - did an excellent job. My hat and wings are off to them!
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Old 01-16-2009, 02:22 AM
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With such a short time between Quack, Bang and Skip - I’m betting the CVR will show CRM in action to the maximum level.
Lots of practice flying flatirons doesn't hurt either...pilot was a Phantom driver in the USAF. That deadstick Airbus was practically a sailplane in comparison.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:45 AM
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X2

That’s what CRM is all about. (Cockpit Resource Management)

1. You run through the already set procedures for what you think is your current condition/scenario.

2. You both spit out what you think should be your next move.
(I let the right seat go first. If it sounds good, we go with it.)

3. You do it.

Both crew members work as a team. Not the captain barking out orders.

With such a short time between Quack, Bang and Skip - I’m betting the CVR will show CRM in action to the maximum level.
WVO -- Read the second page of the pilot's resume on the smoking gun (linked by waybomb above and here http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0115093hero3.html).

You hit the nail on the head re CRM. Looks like this guy not only knew CRM, he was "the driving force" in developing it for his airline and he taught it to hundreds of pilots.

BTW, I always enjoy reading your insights and behind the scenes accounts of the aviation industry.
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Old 01-15-2009, 10:11 PM
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Yikes,

Cold day for it.
Its going to get to -12 here in NYS. I am only 2 hrs north of all this.
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I want to see them get this thing up and out of the city.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:09 PM
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Luckily, the waters aren't shark infested . . . in NYC, they're mostly onshore!
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:16 PM
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Nobody killed (unless birds count), everyone got out of the plane safely, and it appears that the plane is in one piece. They can wring that sucker out and fly it tommorow, j/k.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/15/new.york.plane.crash/index.html
You’re nuts, dude.

Who do you think you’re kidding here?

It’s after 5 in NYC.

It’ll be tomorrow after lunch before they lift it out of there.

And, with this being a holiday weekend… It will be Tuesday before that thing is flying again. Get a clue.

Geezz.



Seriously - Awesome job in the cockpit. Raise a glass to those two for sure.
Hats off to the cabin crew and PAX for doing an a great job getting out of there as well.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:21 PM
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Wow, what a wonderful bit of good news!

Thank you pilot & crew!
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Thats one hell of a landing!

Landing in the water this time of year is usualy a death sentance, luckly rescue boats arrived quickly, and the plane stayed afloat.
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Old 01-15-2009, 05:54 PM
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Thats one hell of a landing!

Landing in the water this time of year is usualy a death sentance, luckly rescue boats arrived quickly, and the plane stayed afloat.
It’s all about the angle of initial impact.
Too far nose up, and the tail will hit and snap off. Not good.
Too flat and the engines dig in and slow the aircraft too fast and slap the nose down, snapping the fuselage just in front of the wing. Not good.

These guys look to have hit it just right. Hell of a good job.
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