The Gun Thread

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by catmandoo62

define assault weapon???

It has a bayonet lug and a big magazine.

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by catmandoo62

define assault weapon???

Personal beliefs aside

‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--

‘(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

‘(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);


‘(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;


‘(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);


‘(iv) Colt AR-15;


‘(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;


‘(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;


‘(vii) Steyr AUG;


‘(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and


‘(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;



‘(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;


‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;


‘(iii) a bayonet mount;


‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and


‘(v) a grenade launcher;



‘(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;


‘(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;


‘(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;


‘(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and


‘(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and



‘(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;


‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;


‘(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and


‘(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.

[JollyRoger]

Originally Posted by pj67coll

Civil war. The milita were not intended for action against a foreign aggressor but as a standing force of action against the nations own government. The freedom of which the 2nd speaks is not from foreign invasion from from domestic oppression.

- Peter.

I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

[inventor]

Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....

[cmbdiesel]

Originally Posted by inventor

Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....

Maybe your an indigenous person in Alaska, with no possible use for a car, but could use a gun for hunting?

You're a fifth generation farmer in Iowa with no 'job'?

You are a reformed college student who got arrested for underage possession of alcohol?

You were in the armed forces and you just happen to be a violent a55hole?

It's tough to come up with ANY iron clad method of who gets them. Our background check system now works fairly well, but the loopholes need closing.

[Chas H]

Originally Posted by inventor

Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....

Those suffering from PTSD due to military service can and have had their guns confiscated and prohibited from buying replacements.

[pj67coll]

Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

No. The 1'st civil war was against the government of King George which was the government of the 13 colonies. The 2'nd was enshrined in order to ensure no future government would ever be able to oppress the citizenry in the way KG's did.

- Peter.

[Botnst]

Originally Posted by JollyRoger

I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

Mostly injuns and lawless honkies.

[Dee8go]

A Purdy shotgun is pretty schweet.

[Dee8go]

Baseball bat

[Hatterasguy]

No restrictions on law abiding citizens.

I want a G36 and P90, but because those rifles scare panty wearing, limp wristed, sissy liberals we can't own the good versions.

I also want the hot five seven rounds for that P90 that are designed to cut through police body armour.

[diametricalbenz]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

No restrictions on law abiding citizens.

And who or what is going to make that distinction?

[SirNik84]

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz

And who or what is going to make that distinction?

Skynet

[Hatterasguy]

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz

And who or what is going to make that distinction?

Simple:

Felony= no guns.

AFAIK thats the law right now.

[DieselAddict]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Simple:

Felony= no guns.

AFAIK thats the law right now.

If only it could be properly enforced. It's also worth noting that every felon starts with a clean background.