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Old 04-05-2009, 05:29 PM
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Sadly Japan, the most capable of the lot has been totally neutered and today its a nation of peeping perverts, hentai and manga obsessed freaks. S. Korea is spineless in every sense and US is too preoccupied with Middle East.
This is only superficially and partially correct. I wouldn't recommend to be naive enough and convey an idea of attacking either Japan or, in an other case, Germany. One might be in for an unwelcome surprise.
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Old 04-05-2009, 10:13 PM
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This is only superficially and partially correct. I wouldn't recommend to be naive enough and convey an idea of attacking either Japan or, in an other case, Germany. One might be in for an unwelcome surprise.

I travel to both countries frequently, have relatives in Germany and Japan and I teach there as well. I can tell you with contention, neuter is an understatement there with the youth. In case of Japan, it would be few hours and they would capitulate in case China attacks and in case of Germany, they would let the Russians in and welcome them with bier and bratwurst.
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Old 04-06-2009, 05:41 AM
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I travel to both countries frequently, have relatives in Germany and Japan and I teach there as well. I can tell you with contention, neuter is an understatement there with the youth. In case of Japan, it would be few hours and they would capitulate in case China attacks and in case of Germany, they would let the Russians in and welcome them with bier and bratwurst.
Traveling frequently to either of those places wouldn't allow enough insight bellow the surface.

Even if you have relatives, I assume they are not native to, or of local origin.
However, it remains a hard thing to argue and if beer and bratwurst do the trick, they got a winner!

On a different note, what would you be teaching there? I see many individuals going around here, claiming "I teach ...". It has evolved to an acronym of elevating oneself above another. In most cases a closer look reveals a mere "quizmastering" or "instructing" at best.
In additiion to that, most know, that education is rather tight in both of the named countries.
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Traveling frequently to either of those places wouldn't allow enough insight bellow the surface.

Even if you have relatives, I assume they are not native to, or of local origin.
However, it remains a hard thing to argue and if beer and bratwurst do the trick, they got a winner!

On a different note, what would you be teaching there? I see many individuals going around here, claiming "I teach ...". It has evolved to an acronym of elevating oneself above another. In most cases a closer look reveals a mere "quizmastering" or "instructing" at best.
In additiion to that, most know, that education is rather tight in both of the named countries.
Incidentally almost all my relatives in Germany are married into German families which includes my younger brother and some of my relatives are into second and third generations firmly entrenched in the echelons of German society with good enough tentacles to have fair amount of assessment and educated knowledge. Some of them including my cousins and my own brother are accomplished scholars and are in the education system as well. Both the nation's youth are doomed in every sense, Germany currently fairing far worse than Japan and this is the consensus of the older generation of German people as well as my relatives.

Now if you are questioning my role on teaching there, well this lowly quizzmaster here teaches post graduate level mathematics as a visiting professor in Germany and Japan and have taught in China and as far as Vietnam and Uzbekistan as well. The quizzmaster also teaches advanced programming language, discrete math structures as well as C, again in post grad level. I have no desire to make it into an acronym to elevate myself, I have other ways to achieve that. The only reason I mentioned the teaching part is because it puts me into a unique position to get perspective on the country's youth there and also the kind of youth that would be shaping the country's future.

Please don't blame my background and use it as an offensive maneuver in this dialog, thats quite crass of you in every sense and also unexpected. I just have the misfortune of having a doctorate in math from a US univ which has given me this unique privilege and I have no desire to assert myself over others with that, being a NYorker, I have other ways and means of doing that and doing it quite well.

Now if you care to do some reading you will find out the level of education elsewhere on globe apart from Germany and Japan, suggest you check this out at http://thodudayaseviyan.blogspot.com/2008/01/japanese-schools-envy-indian-school.html and http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20070422x2.html

Hardly surprising as even the top students from schools in NY like Stuyvesant find it hard to get along in the Indian school system. I personally knew someone who was in top three in her class at Stuyvesant face a tough time in Indian schools due to the harder education workload, she was so traumatized that the parents had to change their plans of settling in India and go back to US.
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Seriously, you guys chanting war need to take it easy

Forced is right; N Korea just wants the attention. Now, I don't doubt that they want and would sell whatever weapons they can develop, but I don't think being pre-emptive on something that might not happen / is hyped up is worth getting our troops killed.

Iran isn't going to attack anyone. They just aren't!! So stop worrying about it and realize that most of the nonsense that you hear about Iran has been debunked many times over, despite such "mainstream," biased newspapers like Bloomberg telling you otherwise. Also, their President, who has been wrongly interpreted many times, is just a hot-head like GWB was, except he has NO control over the military whatsoever. So he can gab all day long about "wiping Israel off the map" (which is NOT what he said) and it wouldn't matter, because he has no ability to carry that out (again, unlike GWB did)

Also, maybe HAMAS would like a nuke, but how about some conventional weapons first? I think they would gladly take some military grade rockets or missles before they would just jump on a nuke...and clearly they aren't recieving any of those from their "supporters"

Nukes aren't a joke..nobody is going to use one without the will of losing their eintire country in a retaliation. Who wants to do that? Morally speaking, is it worth killing an entire country's popultion if they kill 1/100th of yours?
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Both the nation's youth are doomed in every sense, Germany currently fairing far worse than Japan and this is the consensus of the older generation of German people as well as my relatives.
Would you mind expanding on that point? I have pretty much the same opinion about Germany's degeneration though it's one formed from a distance. I'd be interested to hear what those with closer contact think.

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Would you mind expanding on that point? I have pretty much the same opinion about Germany's degeneration though it's one formed from a distance. I'd be interested to hear what those with closer contact think.

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Germany or Japan? Would rather continue this on PM as its off topic here.
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Incidentally almost all my relatives in Germany are married into German families which includes my younger brother and some of my relatives are into second and third generations firmly entrenched in the echelons of German society with good enough tentacles to have fair amount of assessment and educated knowledge. Some of them including my cousins and my own brother are accomplished scholars and are in the education system as well. Both the nation's youth are doomed in every sense, Germany currently fairing far worse than Japan and this is the consensus of the older generation of German people as well as my relatives.

Now if you are questioning my role on teaching there, well this lowly quizzmaster here teaches post graduate level mathematics as a visiting professor in Germany and Japan and have taught in China and as far as Vietnam and Uzbekistan as well. The quizzmaster also teaches advanced programming language, discrete math structures as well as C, again in post grad level. I have no desire to make it into an acronym to elevate myself, I have other ways to achieve that. The only reason I mentioned the teaching part is because it puts me into a unique position to get perspective on the country's youth there and also the kind of youth that would be shaping the country's future.

Please don't blame my background and use it as an offensive maneuver in this dialog, thats quite crass of you in every sense and also unexpected. I just have the misfortune of having a doctorate in math from a US univ which has given me this unique privilege and I have no desire to assert myself over others with that, being a NYorker, I have other ways and means of doing that and doing it quite well.

Now if you care to do some reading you will find out the level of education elsewhere on globe apart from Germany and Japan, suggest you check this out at http://thodudayaseviyan.blogspot.com/2008/01/japanese-schools-envy-indian-school.html and http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/fl20070422x2.html

Hardly surprising as even the top students from schools in NY like Stuyvesant find it hard to get along in the Indian school system. I personally knew someone who was in top three in her class at Stuyvesant face a tough time in Indian schools due to the harder education workload, she was so traumatized that the parents had to change their plans of settling in India and go back to US.
With all due respect on your elaboration supporting your personal point of view, I still don't see how any of this would place you in the ultimate seat from which you could possibly determine how sufficiently either one of the named nations would defend itself, in case of a conventional attack. Your conclusive assessment is strictly hypothetical.
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