here it is....the absolute best lawncare equipment you can purchase is Toro...that's it...go to any golf course or look at any profession lawn care service and look at what they use.....it's Toro, damn near exclusively...go look

Nice! I knew someone would figure this out eventually. We have 3 walk behinds that are all running perfect no matter how hard I push them We've cut 4 foot high brush with them on a number of occasions. They just keep chopping and bagging no matter what you put in front of them.

The first one we bought in 1981 and we used it every year until 2005....when we sold it to a family friend

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Well cliffmac, you are making a claim, with no documented proof to back up your opinion......

Toro is most certainly not, "the absolute best lawncare equipment you can purchase," if it were, there would be no other brands competing for lawn care business. -Which of course, is not the case.

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go to your local golf course and ask the greenskeeper....observe your local lawncare services and ask them as well...do it....and get back to me on this one....it's Toro

and of course you took that statement as literally as 'Mercedes Benz' Enginered as No Other....what the hell does that mean?...I am simply saying go look and see...I believe you will find Toro in use at most golf courses just as you find Mercedes Benz in garages in Beverly Hills...not exclusivley, but mostly. get it? It's a relative thing...you gotta be flexible on the concept thing here....

and to put your money were your mouth is...what is the best lawnmower out there? I'd be all ears on this one....and how can you substantiate that one yourself?

You're on deck here.....making claims you are not backing up.......not me.

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there is no documentation needed here, what's wrong with you? Does the fact that Toyota sells more cars than Mercedes mean that Toyota is a superior automobile...get with the conversation....come on

I don't know........perhaps you could just provide independent documentation for the Toro claim you made above......that's all I was asking for?

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Thanks....I didn't think you could nor would provide any proof here supporting your claim.....

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My family did have a Toro in the early 80's. It was a good riding lawn mower, but couldn't handle the hill we had. It was replaced with a John Deere 314. It did better on the hill. My older brother still has that riding mower. I actually have a JD 208. I have heard the JD's quality has slipped in the past few years.
I don't see many if any Toros around me. Scaggs is one that seems to have a good reputation. I did mow with one once. It was a large walk behind. I'll have to look at golf courses. The R/C flying club bought a multi reel pull behind mower. I think everyone was inpressed with the quality of the cut. Very dense, looks almost like a putting green.
I do have a Lawn Boy 2 cycle. I haven't used it much. Some people really are devoted to them. The ones with the magnesium decks are the more sought after ones. I'll have to try the Opti-Lube. They sell it at NAPA by me. One of the guys there is very impressed with it.
Tom

I had a 2cycle Lawnboy for a while I pulled out of a garbage and fixed. It was not self propelled but I could push it through 12 inch grass at my rentals and couldnt kill the motor. I finally got tired of it and wanted a self propelled so I pulled off the air filter and ran it for 2 more seasons off and on trying to kill it. I finally gave up and set it by the road and someone else is probably still mowing with it

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2003 TJ with Hemi (to go anywhere, quickly) sold
2001 Excursion Powerstroke (to go dependably)
1970 Mustang 428SCJ (to go fast)
1962 Corvette LS1 (to go in style)
2001 Schwinn Grape Krate 10spd (if all else fails)

I had a lawn boy for a short time, do they still use plastic carburetors?

John Deere still makes a quality product. They produced a lower cost series of lawn tractors sold through the big box stores, e.g. Home Depot to compete with MTD, Murray, etc. These lawn tractors are intended for lawn mowing only and not for pushing snow and heavy pulling.

Here is my John Deere that I just fixed up, not bad shape for a 18 year old tractor.

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cliffmac, get off your high horse. you have simply stated an opinion. as for toro, they are decent. in my opinion,they are junk. i would know, i have one. along with 2 lawn boys and a honda. the lawn boys run and cut so much better than the toro or honda. i find it funny that you get so defensive and have to resort to low blows to make yourself feel better.

also an fyi. toro bough out lawn boy a few years back. now all they make is crap. last year was the last of the decent ones.

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Arguing about lawnmowers on the internet is almost as bad as the infamous chainsaw debate from MBshop past.

FWIW, I've had 1 Toro which was a great mower until it was stolen and 1 Honda both were excellent I do think the Toro was the best value though the Honda was a pretty big swing for a plain jane mower, comparing Honda to other mowers is tough since a they are almost triple the price for an apples to apples lawnmower.