One of the early theories I heard was that sun spots increased the strength of the bong hits the crew were taking, and that’s why they got distracted.

Good thing that turned out to be a red herring

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That's good..........because a pilot without a ticket has very limited employment options............other than..........."Hi, welcome to Wal-Mart".............

Seeing as we don't know what happened, that would be hard to say. Obviously they are hiding something when the volunteered to take a BAC test. It buys them some time and tries too hard to prove their innocence. This means we definitely cannot trust a word they say now or in the future. That is why I hope that they can never fly more than a kite.

That said, if the had come clean the minute they landed, we could evaluate whether it was their fault or not and take the necessary actions. If it was because they had an especially difficult 2 weeks, perhaps a few months suspension would be in order. In the meantime, revamp the scheduling so it doesn't happen to other pilots. If they were partying for 3 nights in a row before that flight, that would be a different story.

So lets say I would be more willing to listen to mitigation and returning them to the air after disciplinary action were taken.

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99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
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06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
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You too ?? Pretty spooky, huh?

There’s got to be some unknown planets lining up out there in deep space someplace.

I’ve found myself in agreement with more than one of his posts this past week or so.

Talk about weird.

But I think it’s a change in him, not me.
I base this on the fact that it took him this long to bring up sex (porn) in this thread.
I figured the old Aklim would have made the comment that the two pilots were engaged in some homosexual activity and lost track of time back on page two.

But then... Come to think of it....The way these two "Ex-Pilots" have been changing their story, I wouldn’t be surprised if that is the secret they are hiding.

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Your “...very limited employment options...” being very understated.

I might bet on the union fighting to let them sell tickets or throw baggage. But then, keep in mind that the pilots union (ALPA) is in place to represent/fight for airline pilots. Neither of these guys are airline pilots anymore. Not sure how they would see it. And the airline certainly no longer has to keep them.

If the captain is really lucky, he might be allowed to assist in simulator training.
I wouldn’t bet on that one though.

In this economy. These guys are screwed.
That I would bet on.

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Spread pretty thin between this site and BO. Also, there wasn't that much material to work with in this thread. Add that to the fact that their story kept changing, it is hard sometimes.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Implausible. No one loses track of time here.

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1984 300D, 138K

They could have been studying a foreign language on Rosetta Stone software . . .

Buenas noches damas y caballeros, les habla su Capitán . . .

Hey, there ya go. Does an FAA ban prevent one from flying for Mozambique Air?

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K

Perhaps they should have been studying the classifieds more closely.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

Maybe they can get a new license from the Nigerian authorities. Mail order too.

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

I thought it was Apple....

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2012 SLK 350
1987 420 SEL

Good one!!!

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..'77 - 280E - 123.033.12 / > 128.20 K
...'67 - El Camino - 283ci / > 207.00 K
....'75 - Yamaha - 650XS / < 21.00 K
.....'87 - G20 Sportvan / > 206.00 K
......'85 - 4WINNS 160 I.O. / 140hp
.......'74 - Honda CT70 / Real 125
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“I didn’t really say everything I said.”
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Whether or not they can find another decent job depends on whether or not they have other experience and or an advanced degree.

If so, they may be able to find some sort of desk job or do independant consulting. There are still third world countries developing their aviation industries. ICAO assists countries with poorly developed aviation industries raise their standards so that they can handle international flights. My dad can vouch for the fact they hire many incompetents. It's a branch of the UN, after all.

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1991 300D 2.5 - Smokes like it's on Crack!

HAH! Here's the babel fish translation I got for that. I mean, I more or less knew what it meant, but I wasn't sure about the usage in the last part:

Good night ladies and horsemen, speak their Captain to them.

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1986 300SDL, 362K
1984 300D, 138K