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Old 02-06-2010, 09:13 PM
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As long as I can profit from it.
Not everyone is gonna be a "A" student, but if society is better, then life for most will be better. You'll have to learn how and implement that know how in order to profit from "it". If not then you won't, just as it is today except debt will be lower. Nothing's stopping you but you.

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Old 02-06-2010, 09:25 PM
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RRR's debt was a pittance compared to today's debt.
The problem is NOW.
The solution is needed NOW.
Nope, the solution was needed 30 years ago. The problem was started then.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:31 PM
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Nope, the solution was needed 30 years ago. The problem was started then.
How do you propose to solve the problem? Get into your time machine and go back to fix it?

Your approach may feel good to you, but it ignores the very real insolvency facing the country.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:36 PM
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How do you propose to solve the problem? Get into your time machine and go back to fix it?

Your approach may feel good to you, but it ignores the very real insolvency facing the country.
I posted my fix. Spend less. What do you propose?
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first thing is dump the left in 2010

than o in 2012

then you can say what you want NOW but its coming right at you

Sarah did well tonight and the people REAL ones really like her - jz
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:44 AM
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eliminate the dept of education, scale back epa, thats a start...
Over-simplification. I think it's largely a result of our national assumption that the big life we've been living in America is ordained by God and will continue indefinitely. As a result we've been a gradual path of consuming more and more, getting fat and lazy in the process, while our production has flat-lined or worse. And so we buy Chinese goods. Their workforce is hungrier. The prices much lower. And money leaves the country and doesn't come back unless we borrow it back. Oops.

And of course we simply must spend as much on defense as the rest of the world combined, why it just has to be that way. To do otherwise is to surrender to communism.
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:54 AM
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first thing is dump the left in 2010

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then you can say what you want NOW but its coming right at you

Sarah did well tonight and the people REAL ones really like her - jz
She always does well, that's why the liberals and leftists hate her.

The more they bleat, and gossip The more her ratings soar! - just like Fox News. he -he

Pushin' 50......what a babe! She's not only gorgeous, but rich too! Just like someone else I know.

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Good lord. Palin never does well. She just repeats a worn out list of canards. That you cannot see the garishness of her plastic grin in the photo in your sig speaks volumes.

The left hates her? No, they see through her paint by the numbers phony-ness.
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I posted my fix. Spend less. What do you propose?
Spending less is the solution.
I was criticizing your response that said there was no fix--that the problem was RRR's fault, and we couldn't do anything at this point.
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first thing is dump the left in 2010

than o in 2012

then you can say what you want NOW but its coming right at you

Sarah did well tonight and the people REAL ones really like her - jz
I would widen my sights a bit, and dump EVERYONE in 2010 who voted for this massive overspending; everyone who added his special pork to an unrelated Bill.

Then, repeat at every election. Sort of like the instructions on the shampoo bottler, " Lather rinse, repeat".
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I would widen my sights a bit, and dump EVERYONE in 2010 who voted for this massive overspending; everyone who added his special pork to an unrelated Bill.

Then, repeat at every election. Sort of like the instructions on the shampoo bottler, " Lather rinse, repeat".


thanks and yes true both need a flushing and will get it i do believe - jz
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Spending less is the solution.
I was criticizing your response that said there was no fix--that the problem was RRR's fault, and we couldn't do anything at this point.
I never claimed there was no fix, nor did I claim we can't do anything. But it did start with Raygun.
What is it with Republicans and reading comprehension?
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:28 AM
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I would widen my sights a bit, and dump EVERYONE in 2010 who voted for this massive overspending; everyone who added his special pork to an unrelated Bill.

Then, repeat at every election. Sort of like the instructions on the shampoo bottler, " Lather rinse, repeat".
Probably will be all of them.

But does it help if you keep rinsing with water from the same dirty bowl? I think not. This is like Wal*Mart. We grumble that they sell crappy products but we tell them to sell it via our purchases. We need to stop buying what they are selling. At that point, they will either change their business model or go out of business. You can't tell them what you want and then blame them for the product you got. We need to stop asking them for the stars and the moon. We hate Mom & Dad because you ask for stuff and they have to say "no". But Grandpa and Grandma just give freely so we love them. Same as who we vote for. We want them to do all kinds of crap and they gave it to us. Well, that has a price to pay and when that bill comes due, we ask once more for them to take care of it and so on and so forth.

Why do you think I will generally vote for the candidate that promises the least. The less they do, the better I feel. Maybe not today but in the long run. Sure, we need he govt to do certain things but we have expanded their role to the point that we want them to take care of us from cradle to grave.
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Good lord. Palin never does well. She just repeats a worn out list of canards. That you cannot see the garishness of her plastic grin in the photo in your sig speaks volumes.

The left hates her? No, they see through her paint by the numbers phony-ness.

Mrs Palin is as Middle America as it gets, Married, 5 kids, didn't dump the one they knew was going to an issue into the garbage, a teen who we all know made a mistake with another teen SO WHAT

maybe most have never had an opportunity to actually speak to a real, mom , who goes to church ,I know oh my god how evil YEA right , was picked for her ability's to run for VP , had the Mc Cain campaign left her alone she would have done much better the pundits who went after ( HER ) Guess what , all but one is gone. the people turned them off on TV and now they write books i guess no one will buy

you guy's are really something , The views about conservative woman, the way its been written by many on the site if you were to be involved a criminal investigation, would put most in jail by your own words only , not having done anything -- jz
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:41 AM
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Mrs Palin is as Middle America as it gets, Married, 5 kids, didn't dump the one they knew was going to an issue into the garbage, a teen who we all know made a mistake with another teen SO WHAT

maybe most have never had an opportunity to actually speak to a real, mom , who goes to church ,I know oh my god how evil YEA right , was picked for her ability's to run for VP , had the Mc Cain campaign left her alone she would have done much better the pundits who went after ( HER ) Guess what , all but one is gone. the people turned them off on TV and now they write books i guess no one will buy

you guy's are really something , The views about conservative woman, the way its been written by many on the site if you were to be involved a criminal investigation, would put most in jail by your own words only , not having done anything -- jz
While all that might be true, she did quit her position as Gov BEFORE the term was up. What says that she will serve out her next appointment to the end?

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