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MTI · #31 09-09-2010, 10:22 AM

Exactly . . . it's really not about the hardware, it's about the productivity of the applications . . . now Apps. For instance, just as the iPod wasn't the first MP3 player and the iPhone wasn't the first touch screen smartphone, the iPad wasn't the first tablet touch screen device, but it's sensational success is more the result making the connection with the user as a relatively low maintenance appliance instead of a "computer."

BTW. Apple does upgrade software and issue security patches from time to time, but historically not as often as Microsoft.

strelnik · #32 09-09-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pawoSD

I suppose some people like to use them, but using a system locked down like Apple is not a good thing either. I'd rather use Ubuntu (which I do about half the time anyways). Steve jobs likes to have waaay too much control over how people use their computer/iphone/apple services.

See, I'm with you here. I need to learn how to access and operate Ubuntu and related browsers, e-mail systems etc. to be free of these guys.

The crowning irony is that human generosity gave us Linux for free, then some dirt bag had to copyright it to make money for himself-- because he could.

He should be decorticated

Look that one up.

Pavka007 · #33 09-09-2010, 10:33 AM

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I keep hearing that Mac products don't have the requirement for constant updates and the forced choices which Windows creates. A lot of time, when I download software, I accept all the add-ons which they try to slip in with the desired software, then I just remove it later

I have to constantly update and renew Windows products and I get hit by so many ads. I just want to use the PC to do work.

Well you just answered your own question WHY Mac is much better system... nothing more to say. As per mine own posting above someplace after almost 30 years with Microsoft I am now converted for life to Mac.

Pavka007 · #34 09-09-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI

BTW. Apple does upgrade software and issue security patches from time to time, but historically not as often as Microsoft.

Yep, spot on, they do about once every 2 weeks for the security patches instead of every 2 hours

francotirador · #35 09-09-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

No iMac sold for $3,500... ever.

Well, I got ripped then. I know what I paid. I put everything into that they had available at the time. It was the largest screen they had, the fastest processor and the most memory. Regardless of the price, the thing didn't last 2 years. I have never had a PC have a hardware problem. Never. The only reason I've gotten rid of them was to update.

You all can continue the debate infinitely. This discussion will change no one's feelings towards their computer of choice. And just because someone says something with conviction that doesn't make it true.

francotirador · #36 09-09-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MTI

Another ironic post from a Mercedes enthusiasts forum.

No irony there. I did my homework as it related to purchasing an older Mercedes and found nothing better for the price. The same is not true regarding my experience with Apple computers. To each his own.

Pavka007 · #37 09-09-2010, 11:20 AM

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...... And just because someone says something with conviction that doesn't make it true.

Like $3500.00 Mac?

francotirador · #38 09-09-2010, 12:50 PM

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Like $3500.00 Mac?

That's not a belief. It's a fact. I'm the idiot that paid for it, so I know. That notwithstanding, even if it were only 2 grand, it was still problematic junk and threw in the towel after only two years. Those are just the facts.

JollyRoger · #39 09-09-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by strelnik

I am seriously considering a jump to an Apple computer, probably a laptop of some kind.

I'd like to try a used one first, before sinking serious money, but really have not followed the Apple models, series, etc.

My intent is to use it for web-browsing, word processing, e-mail and occasional downloading.

Any models to get or avoid? Price range to look at? Features I must have? I assume the laptops come with batteries and AC adaptor, right?

Never buy a used Apple, spend the extra bucks for the best of the newest models.

MTI · #40 09-09-2010, 12:56 PM

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That notwithstanding, even if it were only 2 grand, it was still problematic junk and threw in the towel after only two years. Those are just the facts.

Yes, and no one has ever had a drastic hardware failure with a high end Windows based personal computer. Or have they? Hmm.

As for the advice about buying used . . .there is some truth in that, but it's due to the market prices for used Apple gear, which seems to retain more value over similarly aged WinPC hardware, which depreciates faster. Often the price differential between used Apple gear and new isn't very much, when one factors in warranty, features and . . . potential resale.

JollyRoger · #41 09-09-2010, 01:10 PM

Seems like a rip off all the way around, I've never heard of an iMac costing more than like $2,000 grand, and I bought the best they had of the last two models. I've never had any sort of hardware failure on any Apple product going back the last twenty years. What I don't get is why he didn't pursue some sort of warranty claim, surely a machine costing $3500 included an extended warranty, but hell, the factory warranty is usually plenty the first year. Apple will usually fall all over itself to make a customer happy.

I have never in my life owned an Apple I'd call "problematic junk". Sounds like an operator problem.

MTI · #42 09-09-2010, 01:24 PM

A bit of hyperbole from both camps . . . I have certainly owned PCs and Macs that have suffered hardware failures of minor and major scale. They're machines built by humans, generally on budget, where English isn't the native language.

Apple, like Dell, IBM and Sony, had their issues with bad capacitors on early G5 iMac motherboards; vertical lines on early 2006 17" Intel iMacs, overheating laptop batteries; and most recently, discoloration on the initial shipment of flagship 27" iMac LCD panels.

LandYaghtLover · #43 09-09-2010, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by francotirador

Well, I got ripped then. I know what I paid. I put everything into that they had available at the time. It was the largest screen they had, the fastest processor and the most memory. Regardless of the price, the thing didn't last 2 years. I have never had a PC have a hardware problem. Never. The only reason I've gotten rid of them was to update.

You all can continue the debate infinitely. This discussion will change no one's feelings towards their computer of choice. And just because someone says something with conviction that doesn't make it true.

Well no new machine is perfect. Just watch Top Gear. As for me, I had two Dells at work. One blew out a power supply the other had capacitors that erupted on the motherboard. Dell would not cover either. Although Apple was plagued by the same capacitor issues, they covered a machine that was 4 years out of warranty and even past the replacement expansion warranty.

96C220 · #44 09-09-2010, 03:56 PM

I know this isn't Appropriate. But I wanted a mac, and couldn't justify paying more than 2x what dell would charge for similar hardware just for almost identical hardware, so I spent about a week of trial and error, and now my dell vostro 1400 runs osx 10.5.8 perfectly

It can be done, and especially with the new intel based macs, as long as you are careful about hardware selection, there is virtually no discernable difference.

George

MTI · #45 09-09-2010, 04:24 PM

As the owner of a Deill Mini 9 Hackintosh, I wonder if Dell intentionally designs it's computers to be converted. I'm sure that it hasn't hurt sales of those models that have a hack and compliant drivers written specifically for them.