Or at least for the Broadcast media....

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A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

It's curious that the OP states, nearly as fact, that the incumbent will be going negative early on. What's the source of this crystal balling?

First, who is the incumbent going to go negative on? The GOP won't have a candidate for nearly a year, so how is the President going to go negative? The premise being pitched by the OP doesn't make sense.

Isn't it the storyline of the GOP candidates that to appease "the base" they need to generate "red meat" style campaigning against the President? There was a candidate that recently tested the water against Romney before the NH debates and wound up on his back exposing his belly . . . what happened to that guy?

Campaigns have always been negative. There's nothing to see here. The right has been on a relentless negative campaign against Obama since before he was elected and ever since. Posters of him as Che, posters of him as a chimp, questioning his citizenship, calling him a communist, a socialist, a nazi and everthing in between.

I don't know, like the OP appears to know, that Obama will come out strongly negative, but I frankly hope he does. Especially if one of the current lineup of Republican doofuses ends up with the nomination. He ought to hit them hard and low and show them up for the hypocritical shills and looneybin nutballs they are. Having said that, I doubt he'll do it.

Not that I have an opinion one way or the other.

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And I thought we could discuss the issue BEFORE it became political. Silly of me.

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Of course it's silly because the one's tied to BHO will lash out, and those tied to anything but BHO will also. We've already seen that in this short thread. Now there are already ads - just saw one today- about how the republicans are doing horrible things to the middle class and in 2012 we need to stop them. It's not the president running the ad however- but it's not pro democrats or pro tea party or pro libertarians- it's anti republicans.

"We've already seen that"? I think you mean that you've seen it.Your point being?

When Lyndon Johnson ran for Congress, legend says, he wanted to spread the rumor that his opponent was a pig-f&*ker. Johnson's campaign manager said, "Lyndon, you know he doesn't do that!" Johnson replied, "I know. I just want to make him deny it."

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FYI: a negative political ad attacks something real or imagined; and often portrays something in a bad light. A positive ad touts the abilities or accomplishments of the politician. No one has posted any links or anything that attacks or is negative? Only things which tout their "side"?

If you cannot see the point I trust your sight on not much at all. You may not agree with the point but not seeing it? Does that tactic work for you in court?

SOS from the same old players. For all the venom spewed in these threads, you guys really do get effin boring after a while.

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It's a 40-40-20 game...The adds only deal to the the 20!Those of us who who have been doing this for a while..work the the 20

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You really didn't see anything political about your OP?

No you didn't. If you did not want this to be a political discussion you would not have mentioned Obama. You made a very specific effort to make this political. Do not try and pee on my leg and then tell me it's raining.

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+1.

I never expect it could be so funny in Politics. I live in CA and if I want to be sure that my vote could make a difference then I need to move State. But I like it here.

A lot of American live in a cocoon and if you bombard them with negatives or lies then they will think it is the TRUTH.

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What is an "oboput"????

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I don't like the negative ads at all. I generally pay no attention to them but try to keep my eye on the ball and figure out what the candidates really think.

O tries to avoid going negative I think.

Of course if the opposition tries to destroy SS and Medicare one has to point that out.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.