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Old 09-20-2011, 05:25 PM
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You mean office 2003? Office Mac works fine with those files, and you can get a plugin for '03 to read the newer files.
No, the Mac version is Office 2004. There was no 03 For Macintosh. The Mac iterations were Office Macintosh X, in 01, the first release for the new OS, and then Office 04. There is now 08 and I believe a new Office 2011 is either out or on it's way.
What I'm wondering is to what extent the newer 08 and 11 Mac versions are backwards compatible with files created on older PC versions of Office, say Office XP or something.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:39 PM
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No, the Mac version is Office 2004. There was no 03 For Macintosh. The Mac iterations were Office Macintosh X, in 01, the first release for the new OS, and then Office 04. There is now 08 and I believe a new Office 2011 is either out or on it's way.
What I'm wondering is to what extent the newer 08 and 11 Mac versions are backwards compatible with files created on older PC versions of Office, say Office XP or something.
08 and 11 give you the option to save any office document as DOC (97-04 windows format) or you can go for DOCX which is the new version.
See my previous post
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Old 09-20-2011, 02:55 PM
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I like using my Mac, i find I'm a bit more productive.

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Also, a large draw to Macs is not just the software but also great hardware. Their displays are some of the best on the market, making them ideal for graphics and video editing. Also, other hardware is nicely idealized as well such as the 12 core processor powermacs...if you wanted to build a 12 core PC you'd have to basically adapt a server to PC use ($$$) and then integrate windows to be able to use all that power instead of it being out of the box and having software designed to optimize the specific specs of the mac.
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:35 PM
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Also, a large draw to Macs is not just the software but also great hardware. Their displays are some of the best on the market, making them ideal for graphics and video editing. Also, other hardware is nicely idealized as well such as the 12 core processor powermacs...if you wanted to build a 12 core PC you'd have to basically adapt a server to PC use ($$$) and then integrate windows to be able to use all that power instead of it being out of the box and having software designed to optimize the specific specs of the mac.
At some point I move from PC's to U*IX and I have all the power I want.

Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.

When I started there were good ($$) reasons to go with a PC. Now I do not claim that there are. But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.
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Old 09-20-2011, 05:10 PM
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It's not virtualization. My son's macbook dual boots windoze or mac os. In earlier years, you had to run windows within the mac os platform. A proggy called Virtual PC. It was awful and not worth the trouble. Since Apple switched to Intel processors some years ago, virtualization is a thing of the past. At startup, he elects which OS he's booting into.

There are pirate ways to get Mac OS to run on Pee Sees, but Apple doesn't support "Hackintoshes". Tough noogies.
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At some point I move from PC's to U*IX and I have all the power I want.

Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.

When I started there were good ($$) reasons to go with a PC. Now I do not claim that there are. But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.

What are you talking about??? You can't use right click? Access core level?? Do you ever try to use MAC??
You either using Mac from 2000 or earlier or you just enjoying arguing.

Today Mac's can be booted simultaneous on Windows and OSX, You split your screen and you can work at the same time in both operating systems, transferring files etc. The new Microsoft office for Mac give you the chance to save any office document in numbers of different ways.
Word for example can be saved in 16 different formats.
You really need to educate yourself before making ANY statement.
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What are you talking about??? You can't use right click? Access core level?? Do you ever try to use MAC??
You either using Mac from 2000 or earlier or you just enjoying arguing.

Today Mac's can be booted simultaneous on Windows and OSX, You split your screen and you can work at the same time in both operating systems, transferring files etc. The new Microsoft office for Mac give you the chance to save any office document in numbers of different ways.
Word for example can be saved in 16 different formats.
You really need to educate yourself before making ANY statement.
I encounter Mac's fairly often.

I have learned how to accomplish my goals on a PC.

I am always frustrated when I encounter a Mac.

My education level is acceptable for the statements I have made.

You need to learn how to speak with people who you do not know. If you speak with me in this manner again you'll join my Ignore List. So you can decide if we will interact again.
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:39 PM
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You need to learn how to speak with people who you do not know. If you speak with me in this manner again you'll join my Ignore List. So you can decide if we will interact again.

Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time....

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At some point I move from PC's to U*IX and I have all the power I want.

Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.

When I started there were good ($$) reasons to go with a PC. Now I do not claim that there are. But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.
A Maac is a Unix box. The shell is very ... uh ... complete. But you can still get to teh monitor and type in the various text editors to your hearts desire. You can logon as su and experiment, which is especially fun.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:51 PM
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But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.
Clearly, you do not know how to use a Mac. As mentioned, everything you said here is easily done just as expected. Not sure when was the last time you used a Mac, but it must have been LONG ago.
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Old 09-20-2011, 09:06 PM
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Clearly, you do not know how to use a Mac. As mentioned, everything you said here is easily done just as expected. Not sure when was the last time you used a Mac, but it must have been LONG ago.
I used a number of Macs last semester while teaching. None of them had a right mouse button.

I never claimed to know anything about Macs except for the limited examples I have listed.

However, when presented with one these are some of the problems I've had and when I ask others who use Macs they did not know the answers.

I've also said that if not required I do not wish relearn an OS.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:02 PM
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Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.
Google does not have the entire internet in RAM. They do run linux on all of their servers, and a lot of their workstations too.

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Google does not have the entire internet in RAM. They do run linux on all of their servers, and a lot of their workstations too.

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I have read that many times, just went to google and find many references.

Please substantiate your claim.

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Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.
No. The index is in RAM.
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