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elchivito · #31 09-20-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

You need to learn how to speak with people who you do not know. If you speak with me in this manner again you'll join my Ignore List. So you can decide if we will interact again.

Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time....

sjh · #32 09-20-2011, 06:57 PM

Here's a current quote from an OD poster -

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Originally Posted by SwampYankee

AHHHH!!! Curse Apple's inability to play nice with Adobe!!!

I'll check it out at work tomorrow.

Botnst · #33 09-20-2011, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

At some point I move from PC's to U*IX and I have all the power I want.

Google has the ENTIRE internet in RAM (think about that). It's running on thousands (tens-of-thousands) of PC's running linux.

When I started there were good ($$) reasons to go with a PC. Now I do not claim that there are. But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.

A Maac is a Unix box. The shell is very ... uh ... complete. But you can still get to teh monitor and type in the various text editors to your hearts desire. You can logon as su and experiment, which is especially fun.

Chad300tdt · #34 09-20-2011, 07:46 PM

Flash is the only issue I know of, and that's only on the iPads and iPods which have no use to me.

I'm a graphics professional and Creative Suite works awesome on a Mac. Mac also handles prepress technology beautifully.

I've used all platforms in the graphics/printing industry and I see uses to all. I still prefer using Mac and can't wait to run windows and Lion off the same machine so I can eliminate my crash and virus prone windows laptop.

I'm looking forward to seeing if windows will be more stable on the Mac. I doubt it, but I'm curious.

The Clk Man · #35 09-20-2011, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Now go away, or I will taunt you a second time....

Now that was funny, popcorn please.

sjh · #36 09-20-2011, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chad300tdt

Flash is the only issue I know of, and that's only on the iPads and iPods which have no use to me.

I'm a graphics professional and Creative Suite works awesome on a Mac. Mac also handles prepress technology beautifully.

I've used all platforms in the graphics/printing industry and I see uses to all. I still prefer using Mac and can't wait to run windows and Lion off the same machine so I can eliminate my crash and virus prone windows laptop.

I'm looking forward to seeing if windows will be more stable on the Mac. I doubt it, but I'm curious.

Every graphics artist I have worked with for 25 years used a Mac.

I have no doubt that they are exceptional machines.

When I started they were NOT useful for my application nor well-priced. As such I learned on PC's.

I do find the 'fanaticism' of some Mac user's odd. I've never seen a serious user put "Made on a PC" as a signature but do encounter such sentiments within the Mac world.

Botnst · #37 09-20-2011, 08:47 PM

It's a cult, not a religion.

sjh · #38 09-20-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It's a cult, not a religion.

At least they are not fundamentalists!

LandYaghtLover · #39 09-20-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

But every time I get on a Mac I get frustrated because I cannot access a right-mouse click, see a command prompt, or access more core-level processes the way I can on a PC.

Clearly, you do not know how to use a Mac. As mentioned, everything you said here is easily done just as expected. Not sure when was the last time you used a Mac, but it must have been LONG ago.

sjh · #40 09-20-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

Clearly, you do not know how to use a Mac. As mentioned, everything you said here is easily done just as expected. Not sure when was the last time you used a Mac, but it must have been LONG ago.

I used a number of Macs last semester while teaching. None of them had a right mouse button.

I never claimed to know anything about Macs except for the limited examples I have listed.

However, when presented with one these are some of the problems I've had and when I ask others who use Macs they did not know the answers.

I've also said that if not required I do not wish relearn an OS.

LandYaghtLover · #41 09-20-2011, 09:12 PM

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

The Clk Man · #42 09-20-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

Agreed, if you can operate a PC you can operate a Mac.

Botnst · #43 09-20-2011, 09:26 PM

I use PC's at work because the software I must have is not ported to the Mac OS. I can't imagine it would be all that difficult: The software was originally run on mainframes and minis and Suns and SG's, etc. But in reality, the market for Mac users of high end GIS and parametric image analysis and expert systems image analysis is not going to be a a big Mac demand. Most Mac users are artsy-fartsy graphics, not analytical graphics. Yeah, don't beat me up: I know there is medical imaging software and some pretty good ones like ImageJ (now for PC's too!). But I'm in the remote sensing world. I need geography AND image analysis. Mac ain't there.

But for home use, I'm a Mac only guy. I taught my kids to use Macs back when I had a MacPlus. They had it mastered in a few minutes. If it's intuitive to a child, it's a winner.

I HATE Microsoft Word. (as I rant)

It has so many bells an whistles I can't find the steering wheel. I wish you could build it in modules so I could have a stripped-down text editor with some formatting capability. I need a little more power than a text editor. I don't need freaking footnoting, indexing, captioning, graphics, kerning, etc. If I do need that crap, let me add it when I want it and kill it when done. I want simple.

Chad300tdt · #44 09-20-2011, 09:39 PM

Forensic photoshop on a mac rocks.

sjh · #45 09-20-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

None of the mice I encountered had two buttons.

I worked with my first computer in the '60s, worked on IBM 360 in the 70's, worked for IBM before there were PCs or Macs, have owned over 50 computers and built a number of companies using computers and been a CIO at a start-up.

I'm glad you have used both, prefer Macs and have derision towards those who do not share your perspective. The very limited exposure I've had with Macs have not been productive, I could not find anyone with technical knowledge to help me with the basics and I have a deep dislike of Steve Jobs' business model.

Finally, I am fortunate enough that I can do many things with my machines that most folks don't know about. I neither know if the same level of customization is available with a Mac nor that I wish to relearn 20+ years of accumulated knowledge.