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sjh · #1 09-20-2011, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

No. The index is in RAM.

That's not what the various links say. Do a google search and provide a link to substantiate your claim please.

It is my understanding that ALL content exists in RAM. I'd expect that as organized and structured but capable of instantly accessing and displaying.

LandYaghtLover · #2 09-20-2011, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

That's not what the various links say. Do a google search and provide a link to substantiate your claim please.

It is my understanding that ALL content exists in RAM. I'd expect that as organized and structured but capable of instantly accessing and displaying.

I hope you realize that Google is a search engine and NOT the internet itself.

http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/google-query-uses-1000-machines/7433/

"Another significant change was the switch to holding the complete search index in memory, resulting in the use of 1000 machines to handle a single query compared to just 12 previously."

elchivito · #3 09-20-2011, 05:14 PM

Core level processes are a cinch. The Unix core terminal on a mac is one click away. For geeks, everything can be done from there.

elchivito · #4 09-20-2011, 06:18 PM

O4 Has similar functionality. What I'm talking about is this:

You have old files, created on a PC with an ancient version of Office for Windoze.

Now you want to open them on a Mac.(original topic wasn't file creation remember, it was file migration)

Office 04 for Mac will open those fairly well most of the time. Will the new versions for Mac do at least as well or better on these files?

Botnst · #5 09-20-2011, 08:47 PM

It's a cult, not a religion.

sjh · #6 09-20-2011, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

It's a cult, not a religion.

At least they are not fundamentalists!

LandYaghtLover · #7 09-20-2011, 09:12 PM

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

The Clk Man · #8 09-20-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

Agreed, if you can operate a PC you can operate a Mac.

sjh · #9 09-20-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

I understand.

But there is a right click. Has been for quite a while. Its probable it was disabled in the preferences. For laptop, just like in Windows, two finger tap equals a "right-click". Now you know. Also pretty much any third party multi-button USB mouse will work. Some do not like the Apple designs. I for one only like the most recent, the others are form over function.

Fortunately the fundamentals are the same. So there is no need to relearn the OS. I think people use that as a defensive excuse more than anything. Its like saying no to a gift car with a manual trans just because one does not wish to learn how to drive a manual.

I've used both Macs and PCs for years. I by far prefer the Macs I have used. Like a good quality car, they just work.

None of the mice I encountered had two buttons.

I worked with my first computer in the '60s, worked on IBM 360 in the 70's, worked for IBM before there were PCs or Macs, have owned over 50 computers and built a number of companies using computers and been a CIO at a start-up.

I'm glad you have used both, prefer Macs and have derision towards those who do not share your perspective. The very limited exposure I've had with Macs have not been productive, I could not find anyone with technical knowledge to help me with the basics and I have a deep dislike of Steve Jobs' business model.

Finally, I am fortunate enough that I can do many things with my machines that most folks don't know about. I neither know if the same level of customization is available with a Mac nor that I wish to relearn 20+ years of accumulated knowledge.

LandYaghtLover · #10 09-20-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

None of the mice I encountered had two buttons.

I worked with my first computer in the '60s, worked on IBM 360 in the 70's, worked for IBM before there were PCs or Macs, have owned over 50 computers and built a number of companies using computers and been a CIO at a start-up.

I'm glad you have used both, prefer Macs and have derision towards those who do not share your perspective. The very limited exposure I've had with Macs have not been productive, I could not find anyone with technical knowledge to help me with the basics and I have a deep dislike of Steve Jobs' business model.

Finally, I am fortunate enough that I can do many things with my machines that most folks don't know about. I neither know if the same level of customization is available with a Mac nor that I wish to relearn 20+ years of accumulated knowledge.

I am sorry your knowledge is so limited when it comes to personal computers. Thats unfortunate but not unexpected for those behind the times. I prefer to have a much more rounded approach to computing and keep my options open. Like I said, I have used both and have a preference. This same experience is shared by many. And there is a reason Apple is now the most valuable company in the world.

sjh · #11 09-20-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LandYaghtLover

I am sorry your knowledge is so limited when it comes to personal computers. Thats unfortunate but not unexpected for those behind the times. I prefer to have a much more rounded approach to computing and keep my options open. Like I said, I have used both and have a preference. This same experience is shared by many. And there is a reason Apple is now the most valuable company in the world.

You continue to be offensive. It's not required nor called for.

I have given experiences and opinions about my discomfort with Macs. I was going to go into greater detail but see that you have no grasp of civility and have little interest in speaking with you.

LandYaghtLover · #12 09-20-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sjh

You continue to be offensive. It's not required nor called for.

I have given experiences and opinions about my discomfort with Macs. I was going to go into greater detail but you see that you have no grasp of civility.

In confused. I am not offensive. I am re-capping what you have already claimed.

1 - You have limited exposure and use of personal computers.

2 - You have even more limited use of Macs.

These are points you have clearly stated.

Since the above are true, by your own words, I am confused as to why you would even participate in this thread since the topic is about Macintosh computers. This would be like me providing feedback about the Wii gaming system which I have only had the opportunity to use once. It would be arrogant and foolish for me to provide an feedback on that console.

Botnst · #13 09-20-2011, 09:26 PM

I use PC's at work because the software I must have is not ported to the Mac OS. I can't imagine it would be all that difficult: The software was originally run on mainframes and minis and Suns and SG's, etc. But in reality, the market for Mac users of high end GIS and parametric image analysis and expert systems image analysis is not going to be a a big Mac demand. Most Mac users are artsy-fartsy graphics, not analytical graphics. Yeah, don't beat me up: I know there is medical imaging software and some pretty good ones like ImageJ (now for PC's too!). But I'm in the remote sensing world. I need geography AND image analysis. Mac ain't there.

But for home use, I'm a Mac only guy. I taught my kids to use Macs back when I had a MacPlus. They had it mastered in a few minutes. If it's intuitive to a child, it's a winner.

I HATE Microsoft Word. (as I rant)

It has so many bells an whistles I can't find the steering wheel. I wish you could build it in modules so I could have a stripped-down text editor with some formatting capability. I need a little more power than a text editor. I don't need freaking footnoting, indexing, captioning, graphics, kerning, etc. If I do need that crap, let me add it when I want it and kill it when done. I want simple.

Chad300tdt · #14 09-20-2011, 09:39 PM

Forensic photoshop on a mac rocks.

Botnst · #15 09-20-2011, 09:54 PM

Who gives a crap about the CEO of a company? That's a dumb reason not to use a product. In my opinion.

I'll bet there's some damned farmer out there that I would hate. But I don't ask, I eat.

Same with computers.