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Classic . . . LB will no doubt criticize everyone for having a theory without facts or proof; then will fail to produce his facts or proof when other's respond to his challenge.
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Classic . . . LB will no doubt criticize everyone for having a theory without facts or proof; then will fail to produce his facts or proof when other's respond to his challenge.

As I said. I just consider the source of the background noise.
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As I said. I just consider the source of the background noise.
If only everyone could be as disciplined as you are to provide all the facts with justification. What a world it would be
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Does anyone know why this indictment is for acts committed so long ago? Why did they not bring it YEARS ago, and save some of the victims?
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Does anyone know why this indictment is for acts committed so long ago? Why did they not bring it YEARS ago, and save some of the victims?
I think it came to a head on 2008 according to the timeline

Sandusky abuse claims date back to 1994, grand jury says - CNN.com

2006 or 2007 -- A wrestling coach at the high school where Sandusky was volunteering allegedly surprises Sandusky and the boy "lying on their sides, in physical contact, face to face on a mat" in a cramped weight room. Sandusky jumps to his feet and told the coach the two were just working on wrestling moves, the coach later recalls in grand jury testimony. As time goes on, Sandusky allegedly begins to spend more time with the boy, taking him to sporting events and giving him gifts, including golf clubs, a computer, cash and clothes. During this period, according to the grand jury report, Sandusky allegedly performs oral sex on the boy more than 20 times, and the boy performs oral sex on him once.

2008 -- The boy breaks off contact with Sandusky. Later, his mother calls the high school to report her son had been sexually assaulted and the principal bars Sandusky from campus and reports the incident to police. In grand jury testimony, the principal, Steven Turchetta, recalls Sandusky's behavior as suspicious, and said Sandusky was often "clingy" and "needy" when a student no longer wanted to spend time with him. The ensuing investigation reveals 118 calls from Sandusky's home and cell phone numbers to the boy's home.
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Does anyone know why this indictment is for acts committed so long ago? Why did they not bring it YEARS ago, and save some of the victims?
Here's part of the reason:
DA who didn't charge Sandusky missing since '05 - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

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But it is even stranger that we cannot ask Gricar why Sandusky was not put behind bars because the tough-as-nails district attorney disappeared in 2005. And though he was declared dead July of this year, his body has never been found.
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Maybe Sandusky killed him.

Sorry for this tasteless attempt at humor..;...unless it turns out to be true.
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Maybe Sandusky killed him.

Sorry for this tasteless attempt at humor..;...unless it turns out to be true.
I'll bite. So where is the body? With Jimmy Hoffa
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I am not really following this story as I have little interest in sports but something I did notice while watching the news today was the lack of coverage regarding the victims. Everyone was concerned about the Coach(s) and tbe players and the games. What about the kids li es that have been affected for the rest of their lives? How about a riot for them?
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Medal of Freedom Award Nomination Recinded for Paterno


Sens. Bob Casey and Pat Toomey today rescinded their nomination of long-time Penn State football coach Joe Paterno to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Casey and Toomey nominated Paterno for the nation`s highest civilian honor Sept. 7 to recognize him for amassing more wins than any coach in Division I history during his 45-year tenure.


I think only "Bear" Bryant and John Wooden are the only sports figures whose careers coaching have been awarded the medal.
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This is the saddest part to me. The kid is being raped, someone walks in, and he hopes he might be saved, and the guy walks away.

“The graduate assistant, who was familiar with Sandusky, was going to put some newly purchased sneakers in his locker and get some recruiting tapes to watch. It was about 9:30 p.m. As the graduate assistant entered the locker room doors, he was surprised to find the lights and showers on. He then heard rhythmic, slapping sounds. He believed the sounds to be those of sexual activity. As the graduate assistant put the sneakers in his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age he estimated to be ten years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant was shocked but noticed that both Victim 2 and Sandusky saw him. The graduate assistant left immediately, distraught.”
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This is the saddest part to me. The kid is being raped, someone walks in, and he hopes he might be saved, and the guy walks away.

“The graduate assistant, who was familiar with Sandusky, was going to put some newly purchased sneakers in his locker and get some recruiting tapes to watch. It was about 9:30 p.m. As the graduate assistant entered the locker room doors, he was surprised to find the lights and showers on. He then heard rhythmic, slapping sounds. He believed the sounds to be those of sexual activity. As the graduate assistant put the sneakers in his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age he estimated to be ten years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant was shocked but noticed that both Victim 2 and Sandusky saw him. The graduate assistant left immediately, distraught.”

Moral of the story is "When the chips are down, there is only one person you can count on to protect you. That same guy you see in the bathroom mirror.".
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Jerry Sandusky, a former defensive coordinator under Paterno, has been charged with sexually abusing eight young boys over a 15-year-period. According to findings laid out by state investigators, only two Penn State employees were known to have witnessed Sandusky committing a sex crime: a janitor, who now has dementia and is not competent to testify, and McQueary.
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According to the report, McQueary heard “rhythmic, slapping sounds,” which he believed to be those of sexual activity. He walked to his locker, opened it and put his sneakers inside. He then turned his head and looked into the shower.
He has said under oath that he saw Sandusky raping what appeared to be a 10-year-old boy. He immediately left, met with his father and determined he would report the incident to Paterno, according to prosecutors. A person familiar with his account said McQueary did not spare the details when he met with Paterno. Nor did he when he met with the university’s athletic director and another senior administrator, the man in charge of Penn State’s campus police.
Weeks later, according to state prosecutors, those officials told McQueary that Sandusky had been barred from bringing children onto campus.
To date, it is unclear whether McQueary was satisfied or outraged. But there is no evidence that he did anything else to see Sandusky more meaningfully investigated or punished.

What he did do was continue his climb up the ranks of Paterno’s coaching staff.

From this article: NYT: Paterno aide engulfed in Penn St. case - US news - The New York Times - msnbc.com
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Well, the one organization that is not rushing to judgment is . . . the NCAA.

NCAA Will Monitor Situation While Investigation Proceeds
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This is all about protecting the sacred institution of college football. It makes me sick. Clearly, protecting the program was of primary importance. They should all be in jail, from the old geezer on down. Screw them and their precious football.
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