I support the constitution as well.

The right of the people to peaceably assemble is one thing.

However...the right to camp out indefinitely in a public place is something else. PUBLIC by definition means we all have a right to it, and when they commandeer the area for their own use over an extended period, it prevents others from sharing/enjoying it. The fact that their actions in Oakland have closed streets and bart stations is an even more extreme example; I'd humbly submit that their right to protest and peaceably assemble is coming to an end when it impedes the rights of others to peaceably go about their own business.

That does NOT mean I agree with the police using heavy-handed tactics to clear the area -- unless they are attacked while simply doing their jobs (like the ones in SF last week, who showed remarkable restraint after the attacks).

But it does mean there is a sea of gray in what many here seem to think are black and white issues.


The article today about the huge bonuses to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac execs does nothing to pull the wind from the sails of the Occupy movement, either.

Oh, so it's not a threat; you just wish that others would harm me. Just out of curiosity, how long have you been a member of Mensa?

Very common over here. Favorite of one of a politician over here ~ Bob Catter.

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1967 230-6 auto parts car. rust bucket.
1980 300D now parts car 800k miles
1984 300D 500k miles
1987 250td 160k miles English import
2001 jeep turbo diesel 130k miles
1998 jeep tdi ~ followed me home. Needs a turbo.
1968 Ford F750 truck. 6-354 diesel conversion.
Other toys ~J.D.,Cat & GM ~ mainly earth moving

Spare me your childish insults. Is that the best you got.

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No, but I wanted to pander to your level of intellect, threat-boy.

Ehhh...I've been called worse by better.

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Actually in the last few months most of the BS with cops has been due to the Bart Police not that the Oakland police are without sin. But, does that mean their supposed to stop enforcing the law.

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They were correct.

wow, you are really a piece of work. i think i'm going to call the f.b.i., and inform them of your terrorist threat.

additionally, your apparent glee in endorsing waterboarding shows that you, long ago, lost your humanity, and that you enjoy being a bully.

or is there something i missed? do you have a full metal jacket round for me too?

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Hey...the self proclaimed worlds smartest man is back. Lets all genuflect to mighty intelligence.

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The law should be enforced with compassion and within reason.

ITT, about 5x:

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- 2004 Mazda RALLYWANKEL
- 2007 Saturn sky redline
- 2004 Explorer...under surgery.

Past: 135i, GTI, 300E, 300SD, 300SD, Stealth

we're too busy digesting your regurgitated tea party/fox news propaganda.

by the way, your anti-che thing is about 40 (?) years too late. i don't know any progressive people who still believe in the cuban experiment. also your mention of bill ayers is a dead giveaway that you listen to rush, and/or watch billo (he of the sexual harassment settlement), and or read "newsbusters". bill ayers is about as irrelevant as che. (get some new material, please! and no, saul alinsky doesn't qualify. )

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"The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread."

I know I'm smart because I get all of my news from MSNBC and Fresh Air.

What a load of crap answer. People work at the port, and industry which employs thousands was ground to a halt- society lost money- which means individual people lost money. People were hurt. Saying it was chinese goods which deserves a huge tariff is showing your complete lack of understanding of economics.