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12-21-2012, 07:49 PM
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Gun Banning perspective...
There are those in this country, perhaps even some on this board, that think a complete ban of all firearms is the way to go after the shootings last week. Even though I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, the country is headed down that road with each new piece of legislation and regulation concerning firearms...give an inch, take a mile.
Anyway, we know from government numbers, that there were 9,484 firearm related homicides in 2008. Source According to that mentality, banning guns would have saved roughly 9,500 innocent lives in one year. What if I were to tell you that I know how to save 13,846 lives from violent deaths?? What if there was something else we could ban from society's use that could actually save roughly 47,000 lives each year?? Would you be willing to ban that item in hopes of saving these lives?? Click here to see what I think would help society more than banning firearms... It's certainly something I could completely do without, and never miss it.
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12-21-2012, 08:00 PM
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JP,
We have already had this conversation in the other thread. The purpose of a gun is to kill. . Alcohol is a food. Sure it can be abused but so can anything else. Instead of focusing on bans which most of her have acknowledged don't work perhaps your time would be better spent on advocating the idea we agreed upon in the other thread. If the gun folks do not get out in front of it, bans will be put into effect, they will be unproductive for the people because they will not affect homicide rates but the prices will go up for the guns.
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12-21-2012, 08:01 PM
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I do not consume any form of this product, but the US is dependent on the taxes generated from its' sales.
A Probation Officer I know says that 50% of all crime could be eliminated if this product were banned, at least in the rural Texas area he worked in.
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12-21-2012, 08:08 PM
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12-21-2012, 08:08 PM
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It is sadly just an agenda of mostly the left. It might get more votes than whatever the new "crisis" garners. I was amused by a certain contingent of congress members who commented about the "trite" comments of the NRA. EG, guns don't kill people, people do and how that comment is really "trite." Well, can the same be said about automotibles? Do automobiles kill people or do people ? Most folks would most likely say people when using autos but insert guns, and it's now guns. We really don't need cars, or booze, or tobacco, and the list goes on. We crossed off pot, however. It's just what appears to be popular among the politicians at the time and what the media pimps. It is horrible that 26 folks passed away because a deranged young man went on his rampage. However, how many people die of starvation every minute of the day ? Around 15-18 depending on whose counting noses and their funding source. I rarely if ever hear the media comment on this. That certainly sounds a lot worst than once crazy guy and his AR-15. I just hope the "right" and the NRA get their act together and protect the citizens' right to bear arms, and that includes an AR-15 with a 100 round drum magazine.
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12-21-2012, 08:13 PM
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I'd be inclined to agree with the probation officer you know, at least in some parts of the US. Other parts, drugs are the issue. I'd be willing to agree if someone would claim that 75% or divorce is alcohol related as well.
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12-21-2012, 08:32 PM
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12-21-2012, 08:35 PM
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I wonder if there were an armed adult or two in that school the poor bastard would not have needed to kill himself.
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12-21-2012, 09:03 PM
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12-21-2012, 09:15 PM
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I agree.
Many physicians will agree that technically, alcohol is a poison for the body. Hey, schools of thought exist that consider meat a poison for the body etc. etc. etc. 
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12-21-2012, 09:22 PM
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Which is more deadly to the populace?? Guns or alcohol??
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12-21-2012, 09:23 PM
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Some would claim the Freedom of Speech as being more deadly than either...
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12-21-2012, 10:32 PM
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12-21-2012, 10:50 PM
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New Cholesterol Fighter Found In Red Wine
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