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Old 06-23-2013, 06:51 AM
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lol i go through lots and lots of factory bread but then again i really should be looking at what i eat as i get older.. i would make my own bread but i'm too cheap :/

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^^ I am cheap, too. That's one reason I make my own. It costs far less and you can use real ingredients like unbleached flour , yeast, sea salt...
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:39 AM
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^^ I am cheap, too. That's one reason I make my own. It costs far less and you can use real ingredients like unbleached flour , yeast, sea salt...
Not so cheap when you consider what your time is worth. OTOH, if you ate enough, the cost lowering kicks in.
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Why would anyone want a longer life? so you can spend more time in a nursing home or even staying at home watching your body lose more and more of what it was and try convince yourself that you are still able to do what you want? I am 45 and know the body isn't what it used to be when I was 20. When I am 65, it won't be what it is now. How much longer till I see more and more of a decline?
If you have to ask this question you are not equipped to face the answers. Eat more greens. On the matter of your decline I suspect that in many ways you are near the bottom now.

I may start a new family in my nineties.
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If you have to ask this question you are not equipped to face the answers. Eat more greens. On the matter of your decline I suspect that in many ways you are near the bottom now.

I may start a new family in my nineties.
Answer this simplu. At what age does the body start decline? 10 years ago I had perfect vision. Not anymore.
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So you just lower expectations and go with it without changing any old habits that may have contributed to early decline? Screw that. I'm going out kicking and screaming.
A good friend of mine in his early 60s is always moaning and groaning about what he can't do any more. I suggested he dig himself a hole and crawl in.
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So you just lower expectations and go with it without changing any old habits that may have contributed to early decline? Screw that. I'm going out kicking and screaming.
A good friend of mine in his early 60s is always moaning and groaning about what he can't do any more. I suggested he dig himself a hole and crawl in.
My doctors tell me I am above average concerning decline. That said, it isn't an issue of "if" but "when". When that comes it is time to go.
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I only eat bread in the form of a cheeseburger or other sandwich, and I only have those once or twice a week.
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^^ I am cheap, too. That's one reason I make my own. It costs far less and you can use real ingredients like unbleached flour , yeast, sea salt...
Not so cheap when you consider what your time is worth. OTOH, if you ate enough, the cost lowering kicks in.
I make it in a $5 Breadman Ultimate I got at Goodwill (actually, it was $4.50 after senior discount). So, my time invested might be 5 minutes. I could batch process and cut it down to 3 minutes. Less time than you grab the keys to your SUV and back out of the driveway....

But go ahead ..enjoy your Wonder Bread..do you even wonder why it never gets stale?
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I left my apartment for a year once to do a tour overseas. When I got back, I found about a half a loaf of bread. I assumed that it had been left by the cleaning lady who had gone through the place a couple days before my return. It was a little stale, but still edible. Then I checked the expiration date. It had been sitting in the cabinet for over a year.
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I make it in a $5 Breadman Ultimate I got at Goodwill (actually, it was $4.50 after senior discount). So, my time invested might be 5 minutes. I could batch process and cut it down to 3 minutes. Less time than you grab the keys to your SUV and back out of the driveway....

But go ahead ..enjoy your Wonder Bread..do you even wonder why it never gets stale?
It takes me less time to get bread since I do it while I am shopping.

Wonderbread is a Hostess product which is no longer made. And no, I don't care. I am just happy that it is since I can buy a loaf of bread and not have to eat it every day or toss it in a few days.

Let me put this in perspective. I buy less than 10 loaves of bread a year, toss more than half away. Is it worth it for me to go buy a bread maker, experiment with recipes till I find one I like to make bread? And if you use your equation, you cannot get a bread machine for that cheap as a rule and you have to go get in your SUV to get the ingredients? I don't go out to get a loaf of bread. It is part of my shopping trip. Not sure if you can buy the ingredients at the local grocer.
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It takes me less time to get bread since I do it while I am shopping.

Wonderbread is a Hostess product which is no longer made. And no, I don't care. I am just happy that it is since I can buy a loaf of bread and not have to eat it every day or toss it in a few days.

Let me put this in perspective. I buy less than 10 loaves of bread a year, toss more than half away. Is it worth it for me to go buy a bread maker, experiment with recipes till I find one I like to make bread? And if you use your equation, you cannot get a bread machine for that cheap as a rule and you have to go get in your SUV to get the ingredients? I don't go out to get a loaf of bread. It is part of my shopping trip. Not sure if you can buy the ingredients at the local grocer.
Convenience over health. The name of the U.S. grocery game.
Flour, salt and yeast. All available in the baking aisle. Dirt cheap. You can skip the yeast if you want to make up a sourdough starter. Healthier than yeast and better tasting. Look at the ingredients on your factory bread and list how many you recognize as edible versus those whose name you'd be hard pressed to spell.
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Convenience over health. The name of the U.S. grocery game.
Flour, salt and yeast. All available in the baking aisle. Dirt cheap. You can skip the yeast if you want to make up a sourdough starter. Healthier than yeast and better tasting. Look at the ingredients on your factory bread and list how many you recognize as edible versus those whose name you'd be hard pressed to spell.
For the amount I use, besides the fact that you don't like the ingredients, do you really think it is going to make me keel over and die tomorrow?

I'll bite. How much health benefits do you think it will yield me for the amount I use? As to being tastier, that is a matter of opinion. Some home made bread I had is good, others are so-so and yet others could be considered to be as tasty as fertilizer.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:02 AM
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Not sure if you can buy the ingredients at the local grocer.



Forgeddaboutit. You have an answer for everything. You obviously eat a healthy diet of other non-food chemicals, so why worry about bread?

It's just one thing. You need to read labels and question whether you really should be eating what "they" want to sell you. We don't eat much of that sort of stuff and grow as much of our veggies as we can (what the bugs and mold doesn't eat in Florida).
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For the amount I use, besides the fact that you don't like the ingredients, do you really think it is going to make me keel over and die tomorrow?
Tomorrow? No.

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