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Old 04-09-2014, 02:03 PM
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You should check your source on Issa being censured......
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You should slow down and read more carefully.

He said it was McCarthy that was censured....

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Disagree that is what Issa is doing, or that what he does is necessary. IMO it is theater. There may be some who seek the truth and if so the pursuit is an important part of the .gov; but that is not what Issa has done.
Funny thing that doesn't add up was right after the 2010 slaughter of the Dems, IRS totally changed the way and the time length for getting non tax status. Of course it was a mere coincidence.

Lerner has admitted in emails of targeting the TP groups....
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:05 PM
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You should slow down and read more carefully.

He said it was McCarthy that was censured....
Sorry, had another swooning episode......
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:07 PM
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Funny thing that doesn't add up was right after the 2010 slaughter of the Dems, IRS totally changed the way and the time length for getting non tax status. Of course it was a mere coincidence.

Lerner has admitted in emails of targeting the TP groups....

Yes, the fact that she actually did it is no longer in question. It's who influenced the action that needs to be brought out. Her refusal to testify is pretty clearly protecting someone from above.

Of course, the left is not going to admit this until a smoking gun is produced. Sure would be interesting to see their view if it were the other way around.

This "my side is incapable of doing anything immoral, unethical or sleazy" stuff is pretty sad on both sides.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:19 PM
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Yes, the fact that she actually did it is no longer in question. It's who influenced the action that needs to be brought out. Her refusal to testify is pretty clearly protecting someone from above.

Of course, the left is not going to admit this until a smoking gun is produced. Sure would be interesting to see their view if it were the other way around.

This "my side is incapable of doing anything immoral, unethical or sleazy" stuff is pretty sad on both sides.
Remember how BillClinton was totally innocent of all allegations, and Monica was being slandered until she produced the dress
Dems are better at circling the wagons and protecting their own. Relive eat their own.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:22 PM
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bring back waterboarding for all federal employees?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:22 PM
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Remember Obama going after Romney donors????

So I guess there isn't a chance this IRS thing has 'trickle down politics'.
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Old 04-09-2014, 03:41 PM
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Remember how BillClinton was totally innocent of all allegations, and Monica was being slandered until she produced the dress
Dems are better at circling the wagons and protecting their own. Relive eat their own.
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:06 PM
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Yes, the fact that she actually did it is no longer in question. It's who influenced the action that needs to be brought out. Her refusal to testify is pretty clearly protecting someone from above.

Of course, the left is not going to admit this until a smoking gun is produced. Sure would be interesting to see their view if it were the other way around.

This "my side is incapable of doing anything immoral, unethical or sleazy" stuff is pretty sad on both sides.
When it was the other way around, during the Bush years and the Department of Justice was hiring people based ONLY on their religious and conservative beliefs, the Democrats pointed this out and were told the President can do whatever he wants in some situations and the DOJ firing/hiring scandal was one of them.

When it later came out that a number of Civil Service hiring laws had been broken the response from the Republicans was a massive cover-up. Then Bush's DOJ people started 'retiring for family reasons'.

More info needed? Just read all about it right here.....

Internal Justice Dept. Report Cites Illegal Hiring Practices
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Old 04-09-2014, 04:55 PM
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When it was the other way around, during the Bush years and the Department of Justice was hiring people based ONLY on their religious and conservative beliefs, ...]
"ONLY"

You can prove that, right?
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:07 PM
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"ONLY"

You can prove that, right?
The article is highly suggestive....

Edit: add- "Current and former department lawyers said they were appalled by the deep reach of the political hiring, which affected hundreds of rejected job seekers and as many as 40 immigration judges who were recruited under the political criteria. Those judges may remain on the bench because their career civil service jobs carry significant employment protections."
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:10 PM
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Another quote from that gem of an article:

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In another instance that investigators called "particularly damaging," Goodling refused to hire an award-winning career prosecutor with nearly two decades of experience for a temporary counterterrorism job in Washington because his wife served as vice chairman of the local Democratic Party and ran local congressional campaigns.

The prosecutor is not named in the report, but sources identified him as William J. Hochul Jr., an assistant U.S. attorney in Buffalo. He won guilty pleas from a New York collective known as the Lackawanna Six, which was accused of providing support to terrorists. Hochul, who started his career as a prosecutor in the District, did not return calls seeking comment.

Instead, a registered Republican with three years of experience as a federal prosecutor and no background in counterterrorism was selected for the position, according to the report.
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:15 PM
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The article is highly suggestive....

Edit: add- "Current and former department lawyers said they were appalled by the deep reach of the political hiring, which affected hundreds of rejected job seekers and as many as 40 immigration judges who were recruited under the political criteria. Those judges may remain on the bench because their career civil service jobs carry significant employment protections."
ONLY is rather more restrictive than that sentence.

"Only" as in, no other. Sole criterion.

Would you not agree that other considerations were at play?
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:17 PM
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Would you not agree that other considerations were at play?
Can you demonstrate other considerations?
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Old 04-09-2014, 05:20 PM
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There is now a story going around that Snowden has applied for asylum in Russia. Putin was saying the other day this could come about, but Snowden would not be allowed to reveal anymore secrets if such asylum were granted.

Looks like the Ecuador trip did not work out, but it is still early.

By the way.... The name for all of this, among those in the Spook biz, is 'The Great Game'.


him too,,,,
Meanwhile --- is Julian Assange still hold up in the embassy in London?

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