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martureo · #31 07-09-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

So to be clear, people handing out money to those in need is god's plan, but a kid surviving a plane crash and then getting nailed by an ambulance isn't.
Presumably then, the 19 AZ Hotshots' death, whose memorial service I am crying through right now, wasn't god's plan either.
He should plan better.

Or He should remove all sin and evil from the world.

...right?

martureo · #32 07-09-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

Oh right, let me pull that out of my giant cache of "counts of phrases Christian people say in Africa". Right. Are you denying that there are situations where devout Christians live in debt, hunger, and suffering?

I have no doubt that there are Christians who live in debt, hunger and suffering. I've been one of them.

But you've tried to argue that God hasn't provided in some sort of way. I'd like for you to now prove that.

tbomachines · #33 07-09-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I have no doubt that there are Christians who live in debt, hunger and suffering. I've been one of them.

But you've tried to argue that God hasn't provided in some sort of way. I'd like for you to now prove that.

Well there's this:
Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unless getting killed, terrorized, tortured and brutalized is your kind of thing.

kerry · #34 07-09-2013, 03:52 PM

Link to the auction??

I sure wish I had the ability to get credit for the good effects while avoiding responsibility for the bad effects of my actions.

martureo · #35 07-09-2013, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

Well there's this:
Persecution of Christians - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Unless getting killed, terrorized, tortured and brutalized is your kind of thing.

Still waiting for you to show that God did not provide.

Btw, Christians have been killed, terrorized, tortured and brutalized since the first half of the 1st century. Pretty much their entire existence.

greazzer · #36 07-09-2013, 04:10 PM

Continued Good Luck and Continued Blessings ! God does in fact provide, and your Faith will always be rewarded.

davidmash · #37 07-09-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JimFreeh

Well, I consider my parents to be good people.
Yet, in 1986 they lost a son, and I a brother.

Tragic, traumatic, but not enough for them to lose their faith.
They felt the Lord never gave them more than they could handle.

You can choose to believe, or not believe, it's your personal choice.
I respect personal choices, it's not my business to tell someone they must believe what I believe.

Bad things happen, they shouldn't but they do. It's your personal strength of character that defines how you react to your situation when those bad things happen. How you acheive/define that strength of character is up to you.

It's my hope bad things don't happen, how, why, who's responsible are all questions that have been asked since reasoning began.

Jim

That's all fine and dandy but has nothing to do with the question I posed. You said that you likened it to Karma in that good things happen to good people. What I asked is what is it when bad things, really bad things happen to good people? Is that Karma to or .....?

davidmash · #38 07-09-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tbomachines

I wonder how often that's muttered by Christians in Africa and other places in the world -- in the cases when God decided not to give them food, money, nor resources?

That is gods way of telling them to move to where the food is. Not gods fault they are too stupid to take the hint.

greazzer · #39 07-09-2013, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by davidmash

That's all fine and dandy but has nothing to do with the question I posed. You said that you likened it to Karma in that good things happen to good people. What I asked is what is it when bad things, really bad things happen to good people? Is that Karma to or .....?

Do you attribute "bad things" as always being caused by God? The devil-satan always has his hands busy. Sometimes really bad things happen to really good people and God has a plan in mind. That plan may not make sense now, but God certainly knows better. Does he not?

davidmash · #40 07-09-2013, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

The rain falls on the righteous and the wicked.

Such is life.

Convenient however that is not what Jim said in his post.

davidmash · #41 07-09-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

Or He should remove all sin and evil from the world.

...right?

How about acknowledge that random sh|t happens to random people and call it a day?

Dubyagee · #42 07-09-2013, 04:25 PM

God will provide CLK.

Don't know how the others missed the " no arguing " plea. Not secure enough to let one thread alone.

kerry · #43 07-09-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by greazzer

Do you attribute "bad things" as always being caused by God? The devil-satan always has his hands busy. Sometimes really bad things happen to really good people and God has a plan in mind. That plan may not make sense now, but God certainly knows better. Does he not?

Didn't God create Satan so Satan could do his will? God created everything, he's not getting off the hook that easily.

davidmash · #44 07-09-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by martureo

I have no doubt that there are Christians who live in debt, hunger and suffering. I've been one of them.

But you've tried to argue that God hasn't provided in some sort of way. I'd like for you to now prove that.

I'm guessing you do not know from debt hunger and suffering in the manner that tbomachines is referring to. I know you have not experienced debt suffering or hunger to the extent that my family has. So spare us the comparison.