He was within his legal right to carry a weapon and use deadly force if his life was in danger so that's a different argument.

We all understand that GZ would have probably never approached TVM had he not been armed. Had TVM been a fat and 5'7" tall (like GZ), he probably wouldn't have taken a running jump at beating 7 bells of ***** out of someone he didn't know, so the 'victim' has some responsibility.

A little bit of perspective: I grew up in London where guns don't really exist and are never considered in these types of confrontations. I went to school in not the best area and muggings were very common.

In most cases, muggers get away because police can't be everywhere and they pick victims that are not capable of putting up a fight.

One of my first observations when moving to the US is that this kind of street intimidation doesn't really exist. I can't help but attribute this to the fact that anyone young or old, frail or strong can carry concealed.

This is a tragedy, and that boys life was wasted. But let's not kid ourselves in thinking that a society without guns won't have it's own set of problems.

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For Me that was not the question.

The question was is armed Person allowed to instigate a confrontation where His life ends up being threatened and then shoot and Kill Someone?

In Florida the answer is evidently Yes.

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We don't know what actually happened nor did the court. The defense wisely kept Z off the stand so he would not have to say what happened and be subject to cross examination.

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Since "instigation" was not proven I think your argument fails miserably.
As well as being ridiculous- an armed person rarely voluntarily gets into a physical confrontation- why would they when they have a gun? Duh....

Very difficult to combat such logic...

Instigation was the crux of the case. Without proving it, the prosecution had nothing.

You are, IMHO, projecting your own behavior onto others.
Not everyone has any sense....
Many gun carrying DB's get into fist fights.

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What instigation?

Is it your opinion that if you think somebody maybe following you that it is okay to offer him a life-threatening ass-whupping?