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Old 07-15-2013, 10:15 AM
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So, in your opinion, during the course of the confrontation, Zimmerman evaluated his status against current Florida laws and then formed a response in his mind?
possibly, are you claiming that he did not? regardless, his actions were not extralegal....
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:17 AM
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possibly, are you claiming that he did not? regardless, his actions were not extralegal....
That makes Zimmerman one cool, calculating customer. Sure that shot was fired in self-defense? Perhaps Zimmerman just shot him because he could.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:27 AM
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That makes Zimmerman one cool, calculating customer. Sure that shot was fired in self-defense? Perhaps Zimmerman just shot him because he could.
meh
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:23 PM
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possibly, are you claiming that he did not? regardless, his actions were not extralegal....
his actions in the version of the story he told....

I cannot go against the verdict, as there was just no credible evidence either way, but I sure would hate to have to accept only one side of the story when it involves a killing.

We will never know which version of events is actually the truth, but it sure is humorous to watch so many here that are 100% convinced of their interpretation.
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Old 07-16-2013, 02:29 PM
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his actions in the version of the story he told....

I cannot go against the verdict, as there was just no credible evidence either way, but I sure would hate to have to accept only one side of the story when it involves a killing.

We will never know which version of events is actually the truth, but it sure is humorous to watch so many here that are 100% convinced of their interpretation.

Did you actually WATCH the trial or at least get a report on the testimonies? No credible evidence either way? Do you only log into this forum via the internet, but actually live on a different planet?

If you did actually hear the evidence presented, along with the criteria on which the jury was supposed to make their decision and STILL cannot see his not being found guilty, then you are either blinded by emotion or blinded by political correctness. Either way, it is a sad day.
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Old 07-16-2013, 03:16 PM
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Did you actually WATCH the trial or at least get a report on the testimonies? No credible evidence either way? Do you only log into this forum via the internet, but actually live on a different planet?

If you did actually hear the evidence presented, along with the criteria on which the jury was supposed to make their decision and STILL cannot see his not being found guilty, then you are either blinded by emotion or blinded by political correctness. Either way, it is a sad day.
So you accept the Zim's word as gospel because there is not a differing story.
That may be fine for you, especially as it fits your predisposed opinion, but others here will agree that one side of a story does not equate with having the full story.

If you took off the blinders, you would have realized by now, that I have no issue with the verdict.
I was not a juror, and did not waste nearly the time of others following every breathless update by the MSM.
The jurors heard it all, they made their decision, and I am alright with that.

The fact that the decision does not fit my particular view of how the affair likely went down, is immaterial.
I accept that my imagined variation on the series of events is nothing more than armchair assumptions, based on my interactions with people.

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Old 07-16-2013, 03:34 PM
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So you accept the Zim's word as gospel because there is not a differing story.
That may be fine for you, especially as it fits your predisposed opinion, but others here will agree that one side of a story does not equate with having the full story.

If you took off the blinders, you would have realized by now, that I have no issue with the verdict.
I was not a juror, and did not waste nearly the time of others following every breathless update by the MSM.
The jurors heard it all, they made their decision, and I am alright with that.

The fact that the decision does not fit my particular view of how the affair likely went down, is immaterial.
I accept that my imagined variation on the series of events is nothing more than armchair assumptions, based on my interactions with people.

Have a great day!!

So do you REALLY believe that Zimmerman had the only testimony in the trial? If so, then you obviously did not FOLLOW the trial because he didn't even testify.

Every other witness in the trial pointed toward acquittal. So is THAT one side of the story?

I had no predisposition, although in the beginning it appeared to me as if he was guilty, but I have yet to see that you did not have one.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:13 PM
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So do you REALLY believe that Zimmerman had the only testimony in the trial? If so, then you obviously did not FOLLOW the trial because he didn't even testify.

Every other witness in the trial pointed toward acquittal. So is THAT one side of the story?

I had no predisposition, although in the beginning it appeared to me as if he was guilty, but I have yet to see that you did not have one.
I'm sorry.... did we ever hear any testimony or statements from TM?
We got one side of the story, from the sole survivor.
No one else was there. No one else was a credible eye witness.

No, did not waste my time 'following' the trial, in fact, have wasted far more time in this thread than I would have liked as well....

I have freely admitted that with the limited information, I was in the camp that wanted to see the Zim punished.
I believed that he deserved some kind of sanction for his actions.
Never thought he would be convicted of murder 2, and believed that manslaughter was also a very difficult uphill battle.

The jury decided otherwise, with far more information than I had, and I accept their verdict.
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:46 PM
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Seems that something is being overlooked or at least looked at the wrong way.

First, all the defense had to do was prove reasonable doubt. Given that there were no witnesses and Martin was dead, how can there not be doubt. The prosecution was giving their possible scenarios of what happened and there is nothing to prove that any of those possibilities were not the case.

Three members of the jury thought he was guilty at the beginning of deliberations. What they thought he was guilt of was not against the law. The law did not support their POV. Had the laws been written differently (as BC pointed out) his ass would be in jail.

I think what happened is that based on the way the FL SYG law is written Zimmerman was not guilty. The verdict just showed the major flaws in the FL SYG law.
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