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t walgamuth · #1 07-16-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

I'm not quite sure why you continue to argue in favor of a guilty verdict against Zimmerman?

Based upon FL law, all Zimmerman has to show is that he is in fear of his life. That's it. Once that is established, he can use the weapon and not be criminally charged for it.

All of the anecdotal stories about Zimmerman being a racist and Zimmerman going after TM and Zimmerman starting the altercation with TM are irrelevant, unfortunately. Once the two are in a serious physical altercation, and one of them feels that he might be killed, he can use the gun. Period.

Now, all of your anecdotal stories would really work well here in NY. I can assure you that Zimmerman is now in a cell doing 15 years for Manslaughter.

But arguing your points based on FL law is a non-starter and makes you look ignorant of the law.

When did that stop anybody from expressing their opinions here?

Brian Carlton · #2 07-16-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

When did that stop anybody from expressing their opinions here?

Opinions are fine, however can you please get to an understanding of FL law before providing same?

I do not believe your opinion can stand the test of FL law. However, I'm interested to see if you can reconcile your opinion with that law.

t walgamuth · #3 07-16-2013, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Opinions are fine, however can you please get to an understanding of FL law before providing same?

I do not believe your opinion can stand the test of FL law. However, I'm interested to see if you can reconcile your opinion with that law.

I am not interested in Florida law here. I am interested in Florida justice. An all white jury seems questionable in this day and age.

Brian Carlton · #4 07-16-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I am not interested in Florida law here.

Well OK then.

Can you define a new set of TW laws so we can all be on the same page?

t walgamuth · #5 07-16-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton

Well OK then.

Can you define a new set of TW laws so we can all be on the same page?

No.

Brian Carlton · #6 07-16-2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

No.

Without a new set of TW laws, we only have FL law. If you are not interested in FL law, then the onerous is on you to define a new set of laws.

Once you do that, we can all agree or disagree, all over again, whether Zimmerman is guilty of manslaughter. He could never be guilty of murder as he never had any intent to kill TM.

FWIW, you'd be very pleased with the NY law. NFW you get to shoot an unarmed man and walk. He's doing 15 years here without any doubt.

cmac2012 · #7 07-17-2013, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I am not interested in Florida law here. I am interested in Florida justice. An all white jury seems questionable in this day and age.

This jury was very kind for the defense, that much is clear. The vocal juror is speaking volumes about the presumed profound and sober judgment of this particular jury. Plenty of permutations of other citizens of the area would have ruled differently.

What kind of book deal do you think she'll get? 6 figure advance? Ka-ching! Up here! That's right!

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/07/heres-first-juror-whos-looking-make-money-zimmerman-trial/67180/