Using the "N" word in public - Page 5 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Jorn · #61 09-23-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aklim

What has anyone's opinion got to do with it? Under the first amendment, you don't have to like it but we don't get to pick and choose which time you like to support, not agree, support it. I don't like the Klan either but I have to support their right to exist. I agree that they are racist in that they allow only certain races to participate but same as the Black (Insert Group here) of America. As long as it is a private group and not funded by taxpayers, I support their right to discriminate whether it is for or against me.

The flag is just as offensive as the word n***** to a lot of people, I was curious about his opinion because of how he feels about the "N" word. For me personally I don't really have a problem with both, but when words or actions are offensive to others I tend to not use them anymore out of respect for their feelings.

Discriminate in private is fine but in public it's a problem, whats the difference?

Botnst · #62 09-23-2013, 05:03 PM

Is your question about the difference between public and private speech? I am unclear.

aklim · #63 09-23-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

For your satisfaction yes I discriminate.

The question is whether it does or does not fit the definition.

MTUpower · #64 09-23-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

The flag is just as offensive as the word n***** to a lot of people, I was curious about his opinion because of how he feels about the "N" word. For me personally I don't really have a problem with both, but when words or actions are offensive to others I tend to not use them anymore out of respect for their feelings.

Discriminate in private is fine but in public it's a problem, whats the difference?

So a private business can discriminate when the business owners are talking privately about business? I don't like that but I don't see how others are stop private conversations. The easiest, cheapest and fastest way to stop racism is to stop making people feel like they are part of "X" race.

I don't care for the flag but I don't see how it fits into the conversation since I can't tell someone to not fly it anymore than I can tell someone to not wear an offensive t-shirt at a soccer game.

btw I take no satisfaction in your admittance that you discriminate based on race.

Diesel911 · #65 09-23-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

I had a roof replaced for a long time client a couple of weeks ago. The owner of the company was Caucasian. The crew had a young black man as the foreman and the rest appeared to be Mexican. The young black man was extremely courteous to me and to his workers. The Mexican men were very very verbal, kidding each other and the foreman constantly, including the subject of race. I did not see any tension but I suppose it may have been there just under the surface. They all worked very hard and with a lot of skill. I was impressed.

Well things have been gradually changing for the better.
People get Married to who ever they want to and at some point in time We ought to be so mixed up that Race an Ethnicity won't be as important as the Individual themselves.

However, I am wondering if everything would have been the same if the Forman was Latino and the Workers were Black.

Diesel911 · #66 09-23-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

That has to do with turf and low paid jobs; blacks are pushed out of traditional black neighborhoods by new latino immigrants. This is nothing new, the same thing happened between Italians and Jews, Irish and blacks, Italians and Irish, etc etc.

I agree with this one.

aklim · #67 09-23-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jorn

Discriminate in private is fine but in public it's a problem, whats the difference?

If the govt gives a donation to the Klan, for instance or discriminate for or against someone like with AA or the military discriminating against gay people, black people, blond people, etc, etc, I disagree. You want to form your own private club that only allows people from Australia to join but is paid privately, it is still a form of prejudice but I support your right as long as you are private. Either way, it is still prejudice and I don't agree with it but one is paid for by public funds and the other is not.

aklim · #68 09-23-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

The easiest, cheapest and fastest way to stop racism is to stop making people feel like they are part of "X" race.

Only way to stop it is for the race to rise above it. The Japanese for example come to mind. They were a bunch of slant eyed lowlife that couldn't produce a proper product. Today, they have risen above that and their cars almost killed the big 3. Till you can own my ass, you are nothing.

elchivito · #69 09-23-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI

No sabía que era tu hermana!

Pensé que era tu esposa.

cornemuse · #70 09-24-2013, 10:48 AM

******. There, I (said) it!!
Lets see how 'pc' peachparts is!
Does actually laying it down in print now brand me as racist??
You ALL tiptoe around it (What you really, actually mean) ie the "n" word, n*****, etc,etc.
Perish the thought that the word would be vocalized, actually passed through your lips!
But, you are thinking it!

Censored in milliseconds!!!
Not even a 'n' at the beginning!!
Try this: N1GGER & N1GG3R pardon my spelling

Botnst · #71 09-24-2013, 02:10 PM

^^^ pardon your a$$holiness, too.

elchivito · #72 09-24-2013, 05:34 PM

Pardon it if you want to. I'll pass. He's an @ss.

MTUpower · #73 09-24-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elchivito

Pardon it if you want to. I'll pass. He's an @ss.

I'll guess he's just now finding out that when you type nasty words they are automatically censored. Think he can google cretin?

cmac2012 · #74 09-25-2013, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MTUpower

Are for effin real? I nearly spit my coffee on the computer.

Please show some proof that the blacks lineage were "enslaved" are worse off than those who were not. Then please prove my son is not black.

Is society to allow these people to yell it?

Whoa.

I find it highly plausible that systematic disruption of the family structure would lead to less healthy individuals. Not sure proof of such a thing will be easy to come by. I believe it's sort of a working hypothesis.

Those people will use the words they choose. If indeed they are albinos of African heritage, I can only imagine other blacks will not object to them using the word. If they live in some African nations, their troubles will go far beyond the words they use. Some African cultures believe that consuming the flesh of albinos will yield them strength and various powers.

MTUpower · #75 09-25-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Whoa.

I find it highly plausible that systematic disruption of the family structure would lead to less healthy individuals. Not sure proof of such a thing will be easy to come by. I believe it's sort of a working hypothesis.

Those people will use the words they choose. If indeed they are albinos of African heritage, I can only imagine other blacks will not object to them using the word. If they live in some African nations, their troubles will go far beyond the words they use. Some African cultures believe that consuming the flesh of albinos will yield them strength and various powers.

I agree that immediate family disruption will lead to a general downward trend in most people. How far back you wish to take that goes way too deep into speculation for me when you say that someone's great great great grandfather was a slave so the family was disrupted and so I can see why this person is poor/uneducated/likely to commit crimes etc. It then becomes an excuse IMHO. Tens of millions of non black families have been disrupted and we don't give them that excuse. How about the mass of Irish which came and had family disruptions? Or the Vietnamese? Or the Chinese?

I guess I can imagine some other "blacks" (are the people in the pic "black"?) would not object- but I would- and many others would. I don't use skin color to make a determination of what one person is allowed to do/not do- nor do I approve of anyone using skin color as a basis for discrimination.

We cannot influence other nations much as individuals here in the USA- but as a whole we can. We as a people need to stand up, come together, and NEVER allow people to discriminate by skin color- no matter what the good intentions are.