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Old 11-16-2013, 08:51 AM
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The comment concerned a "Mauser 98K .30/06". Not used in the Korean War and I have not read of any Mauser 98K chamberd for 30/06 used by any Military with the exception that the Israelis did some conversions to WWII Surplus Mausers.

I have seen at least one Picture of a Bolt Action 1903A something Sniper Rifle still being used in Korea.

At the beginning of the Korean War the North Koreans and the Chinese used all kinds of WWII Weapons left in the Country after WWII. That included the Nationalist Chinese made Mausers but not made in 30/60.
But, could have included 30/06 US Made Bolt Action Enfields and Springfields supplied under Lend Lease during WWII.
I have no doubt that you are aware that people take the 98K action then chamber and rebarrel to whatever round they like.

Also, the Springfield was a patent ripoff from the Mauser. Germans lost the war. Oh well.

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Old 11-16-2013, 10:03 AM
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What is headspace in a gun, please?
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:16 AM
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What is headspace in a gun, please?
Armorer's Corner - Headspace
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:03 PM
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Herters! Dang, son. I have a Herter's rifle I bought in 1966. Chambered .270. They had two models, IIRC, a J and a U. I think mine is the J. Now I'm gonna have to look. Mine was completely finished. I think imported from Czechoslavakia. The action looks like a BSA. No doubt a complete ripoff. But it shoots nice.
Herters!
wow, I haven't heard or seen that name in 40+ years. My father kept the catalog in the bathroom---prime reading material!
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:31 PM
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Just checked: Mine is the U9. I think I paid $100 or so for it brand new from the catalog.
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Herters! Dang, son. I have a Herter's rifle I bought in 1966. Chambered .270. They had two models, IIRC, a J and a U. I think mine is the J. Now I'm gonna have to look. Mine was completely finished. I think imported from Czechoslavakia. The action looks like a BSA. No doubt a complete ripoff. But it shoots nice.
Remember those catalogs with bible thin pages and the detailed product explanations?
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Old 11-16-2013, 03:30 PM
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Yeah, everything was the very best! I also bought the Herter's version of the Lee reloader, a compact, not very accurate method of slowly reloading cartridges.

Do you remember the many full page color plates of trout flies? It must have been ridiculously expensive to produce that catalog.
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Yeah, everything was the very best! I also bought the Herter's version of the Lee reloader, a compact, not very accurate method of slowly reloading cartridges.

Do you remember the many full page color plates of trout flies? It must have been ridiculously expensive to produce that catalog.

Yes.......

How about the Herter Ram MX broadhead through a 5 gal steel bucket with sand.....

Or

"Lets gang up on killer crow"

Good old days, boys n girls.....
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I got an '06.......FN 98......so you right there..
I got to relate info I read back in the 1960s-1970s that was totally useless to Me until this thread. Yet I can't remember stuff that is more important to Me.
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:39 AM
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I have no doubt that you are aware that people take the 98K action then chamber and rebarrel to whatever round they like.

Also, the Springfield was a patent ripoff from the Mauser. Germans lost the war. Oh well.
This one puzzles Me. The Springfield Bolt Action Rifle Model is the year it was adapted (June 19) 1903. That was before WWI. And, from reading previous Books The US did pay Mauser.

This is part of what is in the Wikipedia:
"The War Department had exhaustively studied and dissected several examples of the Spanish Mauser Model 93 rifle captured during the Spanish-American War, and applied some features of the U.S. Krag rifle to a bolt and magazine system derived from the Mauser Model 93, to produce the new U.S. Springfield Rifle, the Model 1903. Despite Springfield Armory's use of a two-piece firing pin and other slight design alterations, the 1903 was in fact a Mauser design, and after that company brought suit, the U.S. government was forced to pay $3,000,000 in royalties to Mauser Werke.[3]".

In some Gun magazines they have said that it is unfortunate that it is not a direct Copy of the Mauser.
The Cocking piece/Striker and the Firing Pin are of a different design and a lot heavier and thus have a slower lock time and require a heavier Spring. Also the dimensions of the Action are simply larger.

The Israelis are the only ones I have read of that did the rebarrel on the Mausers to 30-06 for their Military or to arm Settlers. It could be some other countries did also but I have zero info that this was done by the North Koreans or the Chinese during the Korean War.

Here is one that My Father caught Me on. He said a guy he knew brought back a Japanese Arisaka from his time in WWII and had it re-chamberd for 30-06.

I told Him that was not possible because they were 6.5mm and a 30 Caliber Bullet diameter was too large.

What I found out later is later in the War the produced 7.7mm Guns.

So you could re-chamber that Gun for 30-06 but the Bore would be slightly too large.

But, that area in PA where My Fathers Friend lived has Woodland and the Gun would be sufficiently accurate to Kill a Dear at less than 100 Yards or less.
So My Father was right.
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As they often are...
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As they often are...
And, we lose them just about the time we begin to appreciate them. I wish my dad was still here--I'd like to have his advice. (Not that I'd actually follow it--why break the trend...)
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Old 11-17-2013, 09:33 AM
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I appreciated my dad for a good 30 years thank goodness. He was my biggest fan and supporter of crazy ideas.
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Scope, tri or bipod mount, breathe slowly then take careful aim and pull the trigger slowly. Remember to lead the vehicle slightly due to the fact that it IS MOVING. Then, quickly cycle the bolt action to eject the cartridge and reload. Reacquire the target, breathe slowly, take careful aim, squeeze the trigger slowly. Now, do it all again. All in three seconds.
When the time frame of Oswald's shooting was made public, and I do not remember when this was, a friend of mine who was quite the gun fan wondered if he could repeat this. He owned several old military rifles, so we took one he thought was an equal to the one used and we went to the same firing range Oswald practiced in. He apparently practiced there a great deal as the owners knew him and contacted the FBI when he was first on the TV.

The firing range is long gone, but it was located in Grand Prairie, Texas, on US Hwy 80, on the north side of the highway and south of the railroad tracks, and about one mile west of Loop 12. It is now industrial land.

It took some practice, but he got there. We also found that when a train passed behind the target area you could practice leading the target. There were berms and railroad ties set-up so you could not hit a train, but you could feel it as it was only 100 yards or so away.

So can three shots be fired, with that accuracy, in that time frame? It depends on the skill of the shooter. I can't do it and neither, at first, could my friend. But with a lot of practice he was doing it on a regular basis.
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Back when I had a good eye I was pretty good at shooting. I could shoot squirrels from trees with a .22, iron sights. If not moving I'd make a head shot. Can't do it now with a scope! After a certain level of competency it's all about practice. Then the will to follow through, probably the most difficult part.

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