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Old 11-29-2013, 08:27 AM
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Radio, as a profitable advertising medium, was dying until Stern reinvented the early morning drive time. If you think talk radio during the middle of the day or late at night makes money then you don't know anything about the radio industry.

The money made during the drive time in the morning and afternoon is where the profit is. The rest of the time the station is just trying to stay on the air. Talk radio is everywhere on the AM dial because it is cheap and because the station had to fill the dead air with something.

Stern has talent, Limbaugh has the same gift as a side show fortune teller: He tells listeners all their dreams will come true and makes them feel good about their thoughts.

Stern changes his act every few years, Limbaugh has not changed his act in over twenty years. This is because Stern is creative and Limbaugh knows his listeners do not like change or creativity.

I was once told that Stern swiped his act from Arthur Godfrey. This could be. If so it shows that Stern understands that if you are going to steal steal only from the best.
wow, I sort of feel sorry for you if you think Stern is talented. His show is and aiways has been, ****. Sophmoric crap for so called grown up men. nothing entertaining about his ugly ass.

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Old 11-29-2013, 10:44 AM
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He said that Limbaugh is a screaming idiot, and stated that Howard Stern is a good broadcaster. Wow every time I had ever seen H. S. he was interviewing a porn star. That was what had to be fifteen plus years ago, so maybe his show has done a one eighty, but I doubt it. I just think that King is worried that Limbaugh will pass him in the divorce count because as ratings and earnings go King is not in the same league.
You have to consider where the American mindset is at any given moment.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:07 AM
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From a 2009 article:

According to a 2002 New York Times article, “CNN Expected To Re-Sign Larry King,” Larry King signed a contract where he would start at $7 million a year, with an increase of $1 million annually. That would put him at about $14 million right now. Plus, he would receive stock options and plenty of benefits – including access to a private jet.

If Larry King is making $14 million a year or more then, by my standards, he’s doing just fine financially. But, what I think is even more impressive is that, according to an article in Britain’s The Independent, about Larry King and CNN salary deal, Mr. King was 68 years old back in 2002 when he signed that contract, which would make him around 75 now. Way to go, Mr. King.


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Old 11-29-2013, 11:23 AM
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wow, I sort of feel sorry for you if you think Stern is talented. His show is and aiways has been, ****. Sophmoric crap for so called grown up men. nothing entertaining about his ugly ass.
If you are not in show business then you need to get your feet off the stage. Another way to say this is if you don't understand talent then you should never try to comment on it.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:25 AM
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From a 2009 article:

According to a 2002 New York Times article, “CNN Expected To Re-Sign Larry King,” Larry King signed a contract where he would start at $7 million a year, with an increase of $1 million annually. That would put him at about $14 million right now. Plus, he would receive stock options and plenty of benefits – including access to a private jet.

If Larry King is making $14 million a year or more then, by my standards, he’s doing just fine financially. But, what I think is even more impressive is that, according to an article in Britain’s The Independent, about Larry King and CNN salary deal, Mr. King was 68 years old back in 2002 when he signed that contract, which would make him around 75 now. Way to go, Mr. King.


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"It's all about the ratings. Anyone who is in broadcasting and says otherwise is just lying."

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Old 11-29-2013, 12:01 PM
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But his show serves a different purpose than King's ever did.
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How so? They both want influence and more fame; same as most every entity.
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There are a number of differences.
The purpose of one is to educate, the purpose of the other is to deceive.
One is selling entertainment, the other is selling a product.
One operates with no Federal regulations, the other is subject to FCC regulations.
So King does not want more ratings/influence/fame/money as I suggested ...

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... and as Stern suggests?


You've got more flip and flop than Wilson and Fosbury combined.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:10 PM
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From a 2009 article:

According to a 2002 New York Times article, “CNN Expected To Re-Sign Larry King,” Larry King signed a contract where he would start at $7 million a year, with an increase of $1 million annually. That would put him at about $14 million right now. Plus, he would receive stock options and plenty of benefits – including access to a private jet.

If Larry King is making $14 million a year or more then, by my standards, he’s doing just fine financially. But, what I think is even more impressive is that, according to an article in Britain’s The Independent, about Larry King and CNN salary deal, Mr. King was 68 years old back in 2002 when he signed that contract, which would make him around 75 now. Way to go, Mr. King.


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Rush Limbaugh net worth: Rush Limbaugh is an American conservative radio host and media personality who has a net worth of $370 million. Rush Limbaugh is one of the most popular and highly compensated radio talk show hosts in the world. He earns an annual salary north of $70 million.
And for a comment on show business contracts.

Contracts can have many structures, and in show business they come in layers. Example Mr. King. Talent agrees to compensation of $14,000,000 in exchange for the freedom to sell their services to outside advertisers for endorsements and a retention of appearance rights. The CNN platform gives rise to outside deals that possibly bring in extra revenue.

Example Mr. Limbuagh. The $70,000,000 figure compensates for an inability to endorse products or make personal appearance. Limbaugh has made only one announced personal appearance during his last few years and the only commercials with his endorsement run on his show, so this source of revenue is limited for his brand. Therefore he has to get all the money up front. In this case the decision to make no personal appearances by Talent is, according to the Talent, their decision.

Example a few actors I have worked with. An actor is offered a sum of $450,000 for a part in a major film with career making potential. They accept with a clause that the figure released to the press is $4,500,000 in order to impact future contracts. This sort of deal is far more common than you might think as it offers gains to both sides for a cost of Zero dollars.

It is also something to consider when you hear about how much a performer has received under their latest contract.
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Old 11-29-2013, 12:23 PM
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So King does not want more ratings/influence/fame/money as I suggested ...

... and as Stern suggests?


You've got more flip and flop than Wilson and Fosbury combined.
You really do display an ignorance of show business that is common among those not associated with it.

You are trying to tie different acts together in a rational way so as to impose a math logic upon art.

This has been tried before buy a lot of sharp cookies. They have always failed.

(Example: George Lucas blew $10,000 on a prop of a worm skeleton that was on screen for less than five seconds. He needed it to set the tone for Luke's planet and it worked. The Suits at Fox went balooey over this since if you spend that kind of money on a prop it had better be a Set. Lucas told them it would work and he was right. They still second guessed everything he did and they were always wrong.)

The first rule of show business is that nobody knows nothing. When you learn this you are about 1% into knowing what it takes to be a success.

An old saying: If you take the best performers, with the best writers, provide them with the best music and put them on in the best time slot you have almost a 99% chance of coming up with a flop.

Catching the wind is easier than making sense out of show business.
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I just reread my original comment and MTU's response to it. I was a bit harsh in my reaction to his comments.

The subjects I addressed are too complex for someone with no understanding of this business to understand in just a few short lines of text. My original comment combined art, human emotion, law, money and technology. In other words, the entertainment business.

Trying to look at one piece of it and not the whole is akin to the blind men looking at the elephant.

I was trying to impart a bit of wisdom to someone who was asking a question, and not respond as Milton Berle once did to someone who asked him a show business question with, "You really are an idiot." While this is expected of Berle I have tried to live by a higher standard.

Where I failed in this is that I did not come at the question from the level of the one doing the asking, so not understand the answer is not their fault.
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Old 11-29-2013, 01:17 PM
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If you are not in show business then you need to get your feet off the stage. Another way to say this is if you don't understand talent then you should never try to comment on it.
maybe you should GFY. I dont have to be in showbiz to call an ******* an *******.
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Radio, as a profitable advertising medium, was dying until Stern reinvented the early morning drive time. If you think talk radio during the middle of the day or late at night makes money then you don't know anything about the radio industry.

The money made during the drive time in the morning and afternoon is where the profit is. The rest of the time the station is just trying to stay on the air. Talk radio is everywhere on the AM dial because it is cheap and because the station had to fill the dead air with something.

Stern has talent, Limbaugh has the same gift as a side show fortune teller: He tells listeners all their dreams will come true and makes them feel good about their thoughts.

Stern changes his act every few years, Limbaugh has not changed his act in over twenty years. This is because Stern is creative and Limbaugh knows his listeners do not like change or creativity.

I was once told that Stern swiped his act from Arthur Godfrey. This could be. If so it shows that Stern understands that if you are going to steal steal only from the best.
The last I heard is that Limbaugh earns somewhere around 20 million per year. He is doing fairly well for not being where the money is.

So if I want to see a porn star interviewed I should look for the Stern show every few years.
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You really do display an ignorance of show business ...
So I don't know about show business-
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...The first rule of show business is that nobody knows nothing. ...
... and you don't either.

No one knows anything about anything when the rule is ignorance is the rule.

The (show business) World According to Idle.
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I'm in the entertainment field, and here's my take on Stern, Limbaugh and King.

Until someone pays me to listen they can all go pack sand.
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I'm in the entertainment field, and here's my take on Stern, Limbaugh and King.

Until someone pays me to listen they can all go pack sand.
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