I don't even know where to start in responding to such an outrageous claim.

To begin with, you are not even addressing what I claimed in my post. My contention is that many people don't GAS about reducing the number of addicts, except for the fact it would save them money. This has been proposed numerous times on this forum.

On a personal level, if anyone I know is dealing with trouble, drug addiction or otherwise, I will be right there to help. On a national level, this is a good example of people acting irresponsibly and then not being willing to take responsibility for their actions. If it feels good, do it, but if it goes wrong make someone else pay the price for the bad result of my fun. Typical liberal trait.

Yes the cost should be lowered in that it should not be thrown onto the taxpayer. That should not be taken to an extreme where people should be allowed to run amok and thumb their nose at the law.

I indeed want less crime. Making things that are now illegal, legal, would decrease crime, but at what expense? We could just make, theft, rape murder, robbery, speeding, etc. legal and then there would be much less crime. The activity would increase, but it would no longer be a crime.

Fallen off the wagon again, I see.

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Immature. Perhaps you could lead the Forum members, and stay on topic please.

Thank you.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

When the punishment is cuttin off yo head you don't need the mental rehab part.

I call BS on the CNN article. I lived in Saudi Arabia for a period of time and was impressed by the lack of crime. I always thought that it would be a good place to raise kids if it weren't for that law of the invisible man in the sky thing they got going on. I did have a couple beers in a private residence (American) while in Daharan so I broke some of their law.

If farmers around here were allowed to grow industrial hemp it would do more to help the economies of these little broken down JawJa towns than anything the Federal Gov'mt could do.

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You don't have to point out that I'm not welcome here. I already know that.

Interesting . . . When I post the exact same thing, A&R notifies the moderators and an infraction is handed down by Suginami.

If you really feel that way, then there is a HUGE question hanging in the air.

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We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Larry agreed with one of my comments (above) that the effects of drug use may have negative influences on others. That may not suggest personal care but rather concern for the influence of one upon the other; so the evidence doesn't support your conclusion.

He has stated repeatedly that he likes to follow the (US) law, when the law agrees with his ideological views. iirc, he was in opposition to laws granting members of the lgbt community greater rights. I acknowledge your earlier point about so-called moral law (a slippery topic), and not necessarily US law, but the detail is, the views are not immutable, and that would suggest he doesn't agree with compulsory obedience in the literal sense. He may agree to degrees in the sense that serves his own values. If true, he would be like everyone else, right?

This is a kind of hair splitting. I could trace a line of logic that was first objectified by Schopenhauer, continued through Nietzsche, Freud, Adler and others, and most recently was expressed by Manslow in his (Manslow's) hierarchy of needs in the name of “Esteem.” This would agree in part, with a sense of allegiance to something greater (your patriarchal power), but more broadly the effect suggests only the desire to seek attention for self-serving goals.

Who knows, perhaps his dad believed in “correct” actions, whatever those were perceived to be, with punishment by way of a leather belt if one of his dad’s kids did live up to dad's perceptions. There are some who would act out all their life to avoid a sense of "the belt" after some experiences, i guess...

I dunno. You suggest he seeks power through attention seeking means, and i suggest he seeks attention for self-fulfillment. Anywho, without going into more boring detail, I guess you say potato….

BTW I do like the idea of the influence of perceived patriarchal power on one’s actions and goals, and acknowledge that does happen. Some never seek to draw their own conclusions but rather act out on handed down wisdom throughout life, but have not concluded that’s the case here. There is evidence to support that theory....

Would your feeling about that hold true if all of your children were girls?

Can you explain the difference between right and wrong?

If a law is changed, then does that change what is right and wrong or does that reflect that the law was wrong?

Infraction, yeah more like a warning.

You were warned for one of SEVERAL posts poking at Larry. He was getting dog piled, provoked just after he came back.

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Oh, you're absolutely right, I see the difference now. Crystal clear.

I know exactly what you mean, I would use a different word than interesting though.