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Old 12-23-2013, 12:02 PM
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You could be right. It's an internet forum so the lack of face to face makes this kind of conjecture/speculation a lot more dicey.
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I don't think Larry is irrational.
He’s, shall we say, not forthcoming on some subjects. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

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I think the world has changed in the last 30 years and patriarchal power is on the way out. Already gone in many quarters. These are very disturbing changes to lots of people. Lots of people express their dissatisfaction with those changes in 'moral' terms. I think Larry is one of them.
I'm not sure i know what "patriarchal power" really means. I know you briefly described this previously.

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Trying to engage in a rational discussion about those issues is pretty hard because most of the arguments which supported patriarchy don't have traction anymore.
There are places where everyone is uncomfortable in discussion, especially on a public forum and I’m okay with that; but being willing to assert something while refusing to provide a rational explanation is another thing.

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The only solution for those people dissatisfied with these changes is to be born again.
I don't understand what you mean by that.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:36 PM
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I don't understand what you mean by that.
Literally. If Larry were born today he'd be much happier in this world since he'd grow up with gender equality and probably have a gay friend in high school. As it is he's going to live the rest of his life thinking that the US has gone to hell.
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Old 12-23-2013, 12:55 PM
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Literally. If Larry were born today he'd be much happier in this world since he'd grow up with gender equality and probably have a gay friend in high school. As it is he's going to live the rest of his life thinking that the US has gone to hell.
Interesting. He probably did have gay friends in HS, if he was a typical kid of the era.

Not sure what your supposition may imply for people with this kind of uh, perception, as it's pretty normal to be unhappy and to blame the nature of people for that. Wasn't it Sartre that stated "Hell is other people."

I was talking with my sister the other day. Her oldest son's wife just had a child, which is his 2nd child, and 2nd wife for that matter. The new mom was not the mom of his first child. Sorry if that's redundant. Anywho, this was vastly different than when we were kids (my sister and me that is) and usually most families of the time were the product of a mom and dad pair. Now it is "normal" to have multiple "moms" and "dads" at family get togethers.

I rationalized that this ultimately translates to a greater acceptance of others than during the era of a traditional single parent set family, and personally consider that to be a very good thing.

Anywho, the idea of being born again is alien to me. I guess it is a way to act out on having the desire to be unchanging in one's views, which itself is pretty odd.
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Old 12-24-2013, 01:00 AM
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Literally. If Larry were born today he'd be much happier in this world since he'd grow up with gender equality and probably have a gay friend in high school. As it is he's going to live the rest of his life thinking that the US has gone to hell.
I wonder if what Larry believes is closer to reality then you suspect.
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