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Old 12-19-2013, 10:11 AM
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don't expect too much from that welder.
Id practice first with that ridiculous plastic shield they provide (did I give you that?)

It works, but needs constant attention to get a good weld. Id feel bad if you got all dressed up for the ball with a nice spiffy helmet, and discovered your date was wearing a burlap sack and was 250lbs heavier than her eharmony advert

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Old 12-19-2013, 10:34 AM
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No such thing as a tig helmet. A helmet that will work with tig just has lower sensitivity ranges. Those do nothing for you when welding 1/8" steel.

If you ever decide to go auto dark, spend the money on a good one.
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:43 AM
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Why a TIG helmet? What's special about those? I'm not doing any TIG welding...
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No such thing as a tig helmet. A helmet that will work with tig just has lower sensitivity ranges. Those do nothing for you when welding 1/8" steel.

If you ever decide to go auto dark, spend the money on a good one.
The more sensitive auto darkening helmets; the ones specifically designed for / recommended for TIG welding are so much better than the cheaper auto darkening ones.

I bought a cheapish - but not the cheapest - auto darkening helmet that works quite well with stick welding even on thin 0.8mm steel plate and low amps but it just does not react to sparks forming at the end of pointy 1.0 mm TIG electrodes...

...definitely need a "TIG helmet" for TIG welding but because it is more sensitive it is way better at protecting your eyes when using MIG or stick. You just don't get any of those nasty moments where you think "%%%% that was bright - the %%%%ing thing didn't darken"...
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Links to a good welding forum.

Make sure the darkness of the glass is rated for the type of welding that you plan to do.

Don't breath the fumes. Super poisonous, kill you quick, make your babies look like stupid fish.

Search, this is probably the fourth or fifth welding thread I have posted to on this site.
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There is a used market out there of sizable proportions today. Many things that are surplus to some go very cheap. We became a consumer society and the overconsumption by companies and individuals has made this so in my opinion.

Last week for example I got a new venmar 3100 heat exchanger for a project. Was 350.00 from one private source. Plus two replacement really decent chesterfields for the cottage from another. The individual was moving to Texas from eastern Canada. The deal was they kept one of the chesterfields until they were ready to pull out. For the price it was a reasonale condition and it is home now. So we have four chesterfields in the house until spring when two leave for the cottage.

One has recliners at both ends. Four twenty for the pair. The wife just wanted the old chesterfields out there replaced. When I say decent I mean the used chesterfields where pretty much as new.

Right now I am trying to source a new 60 inch Samsung smart television . Looks like 1299.00 plus tax from sears during the Canadian boxing day sale is about the best I will do. At our age the wife and myself usually aquire a major appliance or something like it as kind of a Christmas gift for each other. Our real Christmas is all the people that come over the holidays and having a very large dinner for many on new years day. Maybe with netflex connections and others we may find something worth watching from time to time on the box. Our provider gives us very few interesting programs on cable currently.

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Old 12-19-2013, 11:14 PM
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Auto darkening sucks, even the expensive hoods loose sight of the arc in certain situations like TIG pipe welding, and go bright. Plus regardless of how good it is, there is a delay. If you're starting and stopping a lot, by the end of the day your eyes will feel all dried out from arc flash. I use a real helmet with a #11 filter plate usually.
My main hood is a Huntsman 14529, it's a vulcanized fiber hood. Plastic melts in hot spaces, plus it's a really low profile and large window so I can see well in odd positions.
I have the cheapo HD hood at home for weekend projects. It works, and if the kids trash it I'm not too upset.
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:28 AM
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Auto darkening sucks, even the expensive hoods loose sight of the arc in certain situations like TIG pipe welding, and go bright. Plus regardless of how good it is, there is a delay. If you're starting and stopping a lot, by the end of the day your eyes will feel all dried out from arc flash. I use a real helmet with a #11 filter plate usually.
My main hood is a Huntsman 14529, it's a vulcanized fiber hood. Plastic melts in hot spaces, plus it's a really low profile and large window so I can see well in odd positions.
I have the cheapo HD hood at home for weekend projects. It works, and if the kids trash it I'm not too upset.
I have to agree, I have an expensive auto darkening helmet, and every now and then it doesn't catch and stays bright. Some of this has to do with th fact that the sensor must be kept clean, and I've let it fog up a few times, but sometimes it doesn't work quite right unrelated to a fogged sensor.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:12 AM
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Go with the big blue fixed lens, you can buy new glass for it if the current stuff is covered in spatter. Buy name brand glass-miller or lincoln, should be under $20.

Just don't pull the mig trigger, or strike an arc, or pedal the tig until after the lens is down. Easy.

If you need more light a 100W spotlight bulb in a desktop lamp housing works well to help you find your starting point.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:26 AM
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don't expect too much from that welder.
Id practice first with that ridiculous plastic shield they provide (did I give you that?)

It works, but needs constant attention to get a good weld. Id feel bad if you got all dressed up for the ball with a nice spiffy helmet, and discovered your date was wearing a burlap sack and was 250lbs heavier than her eharmony advert
I don't remember a "ridiculous plastic shield" . My expectations aren't that high -- I'm going to try to set up a full-size headrest for the rear middle seating position of the Corolla. Was going to do it last year, but ran into the problem of needing a welder. That problem is now solved.
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Go with the big blue fixed lens, you can buy new glass for it if the current stuff is covered in spatter. Buy name brand glass-miller or lincoln, should be under $20.

Just don't pull the mig trigger, or strike an arc, or pedal the tig until after the lens is down. Easy.

If you need more light a 100W spotlight bulb in a desktop lamp housing works well to help you find your starting point.
Cool. Thanks. I've reached out the blue helmet dude, but he's playing hard-to-get. Will try again today...
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Good points about the auto dark helmet. It is another thing that you have to be aware of to make it work for you. If you flick a lighter or a striker in front of the helmet you can test it and learn how it works to keep it working for you.

If I were young and potentially had a lot of years left with my eyes I would be wary of an auto dark. As an old fart I don't see it as a threat.

If you get a cheap mig welder the wire might be hot all of the time. Most are hot only when you trigger it. The cheap ones are a PITA.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:37 AM
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:40 AM
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Welding masks are for suckers.

you have to admire that guys rubber gloves in a welding environment.

Ive gone as far down as cotton motorcycle gloves, and been burned for my trouble pretty quick.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:50 AM
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I have a theory that cheap welders suffer form cheapo electric connections. Maybe pull it apart and replace the power cord with a heavier gauge and check all the connections? Just some thought if it gives you trouble.

The dip lube for migs is worth every cent, and if you have feed issues spray electrical cleaner through the whip followed by compressed air.
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:28 PM
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The conduit needs to be blown out after every roll of wire, and if it gets worn or damaged you can change just the conduit. Much cheaper than replacing the whole whip.

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