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Old 03-29-2014, 12:51 PM
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Just now getting to this thread...beautiful example of the M1. I grew up shooting a Mattel made M1 Carbine and an Inland made M1 Garand.

Keep the original stock. Don't clean it to much that it removes the old finish or oils that seeped in with use, and seal it with a few coats of Tung Oil. I love seeing the old dirt and oil that has rubbed in to the wood grain through field use...it adds to the history of the rifle.

I was at the range in Ohio with the kids late last week and we saw a carbine example that, in my eyes, was ruined. The owner had reblued all the metal bits, added a new replacement stock, and a dded a scope. He was sure proud, showing the pictures of what it looked like 6 months prior, when he obtained it. In my eyes, and the eyes of any collector, the guy ruined it.

Keep her clean and dry, as well as well lubed, and she'll last you many years of fun.

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Old 03-29-2014, 03:44 PM
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the godhead I follow for all things rifled is Jack O'Conner, long deceased. O'Conner claimed that the .30/06 had claimed more game worldwide than any other cartridge due to its wide range of bullet and powder weights and great accuracy. He killed the major game of Africa except for rhino and elephant with it. Of course, he was a freaking demigod of accurate fire.
I would argue that the .303 British fired from a Lee Enfield has that honor. I'm pretty sure the last rifle of empire has been used at one point or another to kill everything from a German to an elephant.

Another interesting fact the Lee Enfield will shoot with the M1 Garand doing shooting qualifications. When I did the Appleseed which is based around the Garand all the other bolt guys couldn't keep up, but Enfield's could.
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Does the M1 eject the spent cartridge to the right? My calcified memory had it flinging them overhead.
I think it pops them up like the K31, I know this because having hot brass bounce off the range ceiling and hit your head is a special kind of fun.
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:59 PM
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They should be ejecting in the 1-2 o'clock position, about 6 foot or so out. The last fired usually is in the 3 o'clock position
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:28 PM
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Which sucks for collecting brass at an indoor range. I always keep my brass but I'm going to need to find a different range.

I've got a list of spare parts I'm going to order plus a new operating rod spring. I'd hate to go out to the range and the firing pin fail after a clip or even one round. I don't carry spares for my sig but this rifle is 70 years old and it's good to carry spares for it.

I'm going to do a semi full strip and clean of the rifle this week. I'm not going to remove the gas cylinder since I don't have the special fixture to hold the rifle and it's probably fine. But the rest of the rifle needs to be properly cleaned and greased/oiled. Ordered some tung oil from the Real Milk Paint Company and I'll oil the stock up nice and good and call it done.

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Another interesting fact the Lee Enfield will shoot with the M1 Garand doing shooting qualifications. When I did the Appleseed which is based around the Garand all the other bolt guys couldn't keep up, but Enfield's could.
I served in two military forces. One issued a Lee Enfield, the other an M1 Garand. A properly set-up LE was slightly more accurate, and the design of the LE action permits more rapid cycling than any other bolt action like the Mauser or Springfield. Using 5rnd stripper clips, a LE can be reloaded very quickly. However I prefer the M1 for the combination of fire-power and accuracy. In any combat situation the M1 would be my choice of the two.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:21 PM
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Which sucks for collecting brass at an indoor range. I always keep my brass but I'm going to need to find a different range.
I have yet to enter an indoor range that will permit center fire rifles, unless it's pistol caliber.
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The only problem with a bolt action is you lose Your aim when you have to cycle the bolt ever so slightly.
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:23 PM
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I have yet to enter an indoor range that will permit center fire rifles, unless it's pistol caliber.
Range near me allows 5.56 so I might be not be able to shoot there to at least try it out. I'll have to find an outdoor range that's close. You'd think being in the gunshine state there would be a ton of outdoor ranges in central FL.
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The only problem with a bolt action is you lose Your aim when you have to cycle the bolt ever so slightly.
The LE action allows an experienced rifleman to keep a good sight picture while cycling the bolt, much better than most others, but one still has to correct for every shot.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:13 AM
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I have yet to enter an indoor range that will permit center fire rifles, unless it's pistol caliber.
Range near me allows 5.56 so I might be not be able to shoot there to at least try it out. I'll have to find an outdoor range that's close. You'd think being in the gunshine state there would be a ton of outdoor ranges in central FL.
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The only problem with a bolt action is you lose Your aim when you have to cycle the bolt ever so slightly.
1943 Enfield No.4 MKI, Ten shots in nine seconds - YouTube

Well it depends on how good of a shooter they are.

The only other bolt action that can keep up is the K31...

I see a lot of guys at the range struggle with bolt action rifles, granted most of them are clunky Mosin's. But if your cheek position is correct you don't have to break your aim. With a K31 the ring will come to the tip of your nose.

A lot of guys try to shoot old Mosins or K98 clones that are pretty worn out, not a good tight, well oiled rifle fired with a proper cheek weld and stance. Of course all the guys in the British army that could do that were killed in the trench's in 1914/15. As time marches on people forget how old technology was properly used.

Now its all AR's and FN SCAR 17's where you jam your nose to the back of the charging handle, and ram your HOLO sight as far forward on the rail as possible.
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Just now getting to this thread...beautiful example of the M1. I grew up shooting a Mattel made M1 Carbine and an Inland made M1 Garand.

Keep the original stock. Don't clean it to much that it removes the old finish or oils that seeped in with use, and seal it with a few coats of Tung Oil. I love seeing the old dirt and oil that has rubbed in to the wood grain through field use...it adds to the history of the rifle.

I was at the range in Ohio with the kids late last week and we saw a carbine example that, in my eyes, was ruined. The owner had reblued all the metal bits, added a new replacement stock, and a dded a scope. He was sure proud, showing the pictures of what it looked like 6 months prior, when he obtained it. In my eyes, and the eyes of any collector, the guy ruined it.

Keep her clean and dry, as well as well lubed, and she'll last you many years of fun.
I get your point and kind of agree. But I would say it depends on the quality of the firearm. If it's a beat-up POS but Audie Murphy carried it, then don't touch! But if it's a run-of-the-mill no-name rifle, hack it.

Much like a Benz.....
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The solution: Have more than one M1. I've got an old military 'beater' with a nearly new barrel, but the rest of it proudly shows it's history. Then I've got my post-war near-mint BREDA. They're both accurate shooters, but I'm more likely to take the Winchester moose hunting.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:36 PM
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I have yet to enter an indoor range that will permit center fire rifles, unless it's pistol caliber.
Move west. Our only local range has a 100 yd. rifle range, no caliber restrictions. The owner is a dick, so he's hurting for business. Some buddies are bugging me to set up a permanently marked and steel targeted 100-600 yard range here at the home place. I told them "you bring the targets and set them up, I'll contribute the space. So we'll see. Rifles to me are amusing but not really that necessary so it's neither here nor there. I took my last elk with a pistol. Any elk shot over about 100 yards is due to poor hunting skills, you ask me.

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